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Declan said:

1) variation is diversity, thats what this thread was trying to prove, sales dont mean anything in that regard. I play Tekken 6 way more than SSBB. Again what does that have to do with diversity??  There are MORE fighting games released on the HDs than Wii, fact. It doesnt matter how much SSBB sold because its still ONE game.

2)I would call NMH garbage because I played it and thats what I thought it was garbage.  I dont care what anyone else says, they liked it. Good for them.  Why did MNH2 not sell better or at least as well as NMHs?? The only thing would be that the buyers of the original game didnt think it was that good to begin with


 

 

 

1)  Sort of - i posted the data to show that the games that had sold in huge numbers on the Wii did not demonstrate (as claimed by someone elsewhere) that Wii users had the least diverse game tastes.  Comparing the games that has sold in huge numbers across the 3 home platforms was, I felt, a legitimate way of addressing/rebuffing the claim.

2) That's an interesting question - I bought NMH and really enjoyed it, but never got around to getting the sequel.  I think that's because, while I enjoyed it, I didn't feel inclined to repeat the experience so soon after the original.  Now I would by no means regard myself as representative of the typical Wii gamer, but my tendency (which is not absolute by any means, but a tendency nonetheless) to avoid repeating game experiences within a short space of time may be shared by others, and may in some way account for the disappointing performance of many sequels on the Wii (relative to the originals).  I'm often amazed at how a new CoD outperforms its predecessor and leads to hardware spikes (who was drawn to an HD machine by CoD:MW3, but not MWs 1 and 2?) - we've seen with games like SMG2, Zelda:SS and various others that being a Wii sequel to a critically acclaimed and big-selling predecessor does not make outperforming that predecessor particularly likely (unlike on the HD systems).  I don't say this to imply that Wii owners' tastes are more diverse, I just offer it as an observation in response to your point about NMH.


1) ok, i can see some of that, but i digress, the only way to find out who really has the most diverse library is to go genre by genre and simply count the amount of titles. The amount of sales sold does not really matter. Lets look at fighting games again. SSBB sold 10mil. The other games in that genre on Wii sold FAR less. Plus it doesnt has less releases in that genre compared to HDs.  Now your SFs, MvsCs, Tekkens, etc. sell about 1-2mil. Those can add up to the 10mil SSBB sold really quickly. We havent even gotten to the sales of fighters released on PSN/LIVE.  Hell if anything, IMHO that shows that it would be the least diverse, why would so much people buy SSBB?? Either the other fighting games on WIi just suck OR there are not that much released in the first place

2) THats a good tendency, but why has this not applied to HD games across the board??? Uncharted, Killzone, Gears, ME, CODs, they all have increased their sales. Wii seems to be the opposite, hell COD seems to be selling worse every year.Im not saying all series on HDs increase in sales, but i cant think of one game series on Wii that actually increased its sales, with the exception of Just Dance. I think most Wii owners dont buy that much games IMHO, or they just buy the same ones



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Seece said:
Declan said:

 

Wii (132)

X360 (141)

PS3 (135)

Misc

(34)

12

5

Shooter

10

(37)

26

Action

9

26

(34)

Role - playing

2

(11)

10

Adventure

(9)

5

6

Racing

4

14

(16)

Sports

(37)

23

19

Platform

(14)

1

5

Fighting

1

10

(14)

Simulation

(8)

2

1

Strategy

0

(1)

0

 

 

 

 

 

Wii does well in Misc, which is basically party games, and has a lot of sports (which again, using the term loosely). 360 does well in Shooters, Action, Sports, and the same for PS3 but with fighting doing alright too.

Wii has 4 genres with 10, 1m sellers or more, X360 has 7, PS3 has 6.

But like I said, there are genres that do better on PSN/XBLA like platformers.

This isn't even going into the fact we still have too many Wii mill sellers than need adjusting down.


LOL

Please don't try to pass of your opinion as a fact. Your last two sentences are just a complete fabrication of yours based on nothing and you know it.



Also would be interesting to take a look on handheld side.



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oniyide said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
oniyide said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
oniyide said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
hm, counting million sellers shows Wii has more party/sports/fitness/platformer/adventure and simulation, lacking largely in fighting, racing where it's got the biggest sellers of the gen by far!?

Wii hasn't got as many shooters and action games, where Ps3/Xbox360 million sellers are found, but still has a respectable amount of million sellers in that area, so i wouldn't say it's lacking, it's just not focused there

if you take into account that Wii has best racing (MKW) and best fighter (SSBB), then it is not really lacking in these genres because it's got the top titles of those genres because sales are concentrated there, so million sellers cannot say Wii lacks racers or fighters

not to mention that Wii has obviously the higest number of under-appreciated, highly rated by low selling games by far (and none of them are party titles or sports) , so million sellers is still not quite valid for saying Wii is only party/sports

thats one fighting game versus how much on PS360??

1 mil 5 20, its nonsense, that is NOT how you determine who has the most diverse game library. The only way to do that is to simply just count the games in every genre for each title and see where the disparity is

Wii has the ultimate fighter SSBB which 10m+ seller, best selling fighter ever on a console, far above any fighter on Ps3/Xbox360 where the best selling is Tekken 6 Ps3 with 2.4 million, Wii has Dragonball, Castlevania, Naruto, Mortal Combat and some others, but who cares about those since you can play the ultimate fighter on Wii? not to talk about racers, it's even more humiliating

i don't say varation in games, since Ps3/Xbox360 have more big games, talking about where the big games are found among genres....

 

NMH has 8.5 on gamestats, wouldn't call that garbage, so does NMH2, about 0.5 higher than the big selling Prototype for example, just telling

variation is diversity, thats what this thread was trying to prove, sales dont mean anything in that regard. I play Tekken 6 way more than SSBB. Again what does that have to do with diversity??  There are MORE fighting games released on the HDs than Wii, fact. It doesnt matter how much SSBB sold because its still ONE game.

I would call NMH garbage because I played it and thats what I thought it was garbage.  I dont care what anyone else says, they liked it. Good for them.  Why did MNH2 not sell better or at least as well as NMHs?? The only thing would be that the buyers of the original game didnt think it was that good to begin with

the difference is like 8 titles, in the fighting genre 44 for Wii, 52 for X360, 46 for Ps3 , a relatively small difference, Namco VS Capcom, Tekken, SoulCalibur, Street Fighter are all huge titles the Wii lost in the fighter genre

on the other hand SSBB is 4x the sales of Tekken 6 on Ps3, that's not a small difference, no fighter has ever been so huge on a home console before so it kind of covers up the empty space

it's all about taste

where are you getting your numbers from?? According to gamepot there are 31 fighting games( http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?platform=1031&category=Fighting+Games&mode=all&sort=views&dlx_type=all&sortdir=asc&official=all ). PS3 I counted 49 from the same site, thats a big discrepancy, they werent even counting the DL games.

your second paragraph makes no sense at all. Not in the context of variety. SO because ONE game sold that much it some how accounts for getting essentially crap since 2007? Empty space? Try explain that to a Wii only owner who is a big fan of fighting games and tell him its okay. SSBB sold 10 mil so that makes up for him not being able to play Mvs.C2&3, SF3online, KOF12&13, TXSF, Tekken6, VF5, SF4, SSF4, newMK, MKvsDC, BlazBlue, etc. You see what Im saying about diversity??

its about taste, you're right. I found the game to be boring, it was like a hack and slash FF13. Run down corridors, beat up bland enemies do the same thing to a boss and occasionally shake your MOVE/Wiimote in a jerk off motion, no thanks ill go back to GOW, hell Id rather deal with Castlevania

getting the numbers from a post in here, didn't check if they are correct or not, i think it's in this thread or a similar one

i'm saying the difference is small but the titles lost are important ones, but none of them even touches SSBB, it's like saying Wii haven't got GTA IV, but we have GodFather and Scarface, it's not enough

it's about taste, i personally play SSBB with friends since 2008, also played some DragonBall on Wii and some SC4 on Ps3 for a small period of time, but SSBB is our most  played Wii game so it's all about taste again



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dark_gh0st_b0y said:
oniyide said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
oniyide said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
oniyide said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
hm, counting million sellers shows Wii has more party/sports/fitness/platformer/adventure and simulation, lacking largely in fighting, racing where it's got the biggest sellers of the gen by far!?

Wii hasn't got as many shooters and action games, where Ps3/Xbox360 million sellers are found, but still has a respectable amount of million sellers in that area, so i wouldn't say it's lacking, it's just not focused there

if you take into account that Wii has best racing (MKW) and best fighter (SSBB), then it is not really lacking in these genres because it's got the top titles of those genres because sales are concentrated there, so million sellers cannot say Wii lacks racers or fighters

not to mention that Wii has obviously the higest number of under-appreciated, highly rated by low selling games by far (and none of them are party titles or sports) , so million sellers is still not quite valid for saying Wii is only party/sports

thats one fighting game versus how much on PS360??

1 mil 5 20, its nonsense, that is NOT how you determine who has the most diverse game library. The only way to do that is to simply just count the games in every genre for each title and see where the disparity is

Wii has the ultimate fighter SSBB which 10m+ seller, best selling fighter ever on a console, far above any fighter on Ps3/Xbox360 where the best selling is Tekken 6 Ps3 with 2.4 million, Wii has Dragonball, Castlevania, Naruto, Mortal Combat and some others, but who cares about those since you can play the ultimate fighter on Wii? not to talk about racers, it's even more humiliating

i don't say varation in games, since Ps3/Xbox360 have more big games, talking about where the big games are found among genres....

 

NMH has 8.5 on gamestats, wouldn't call that garbage, so does NMH2, about 0.5 higher than the big selling Prototype for example, just telling

variation is diversity, thats what this thread was trying to prove, sales dont mean anything in that regard. I play Tekken 6 way more than SSBB. Again what does that have to do with diversity??  There are MORE fighting games released on the HDs than Wii, fact. It doesnt matter how much SSBB sold because its still ONE game.

I would call NMH garbage because I played it and thats what I thought it was garbage.  I dont care what anyone else says, they liked it. Good for them.  Why did MNH2 not sell better or at least as well as NMHs?? The only thing would be that the buyers of the original game didnt think it was that good to begin with

the difference is like 8 titles, in the fighting genre 44 for Wii, 52 for X360, 46 for Ps3 , a relatively small difference, Namco VS Capcom, Tekken, SoulCalibur, Street Fighter are all huge titles the Wii lost in the fighter genre

on the other hand SSBB is 4x the sales of Tekken 6 on Ps3, that's not a small difference, no fighter has ever been so huge on a home console before so it kind of covers up the empty space

it's all about taste

where are you getting your numbers from?? According to gamepot there are 31 fighting games( http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?platform=1031&category=Fighting+Games&mode=all&sort=views&dlx_type=all&sortdir=asc&official=all ). PS3 I counted 49 from the same site, thats a big discrepancy, they werent even counting the DL games.

your second paragraph makes no sense at all. Not in the context of variety. SO because ONE game sold that much it some how accounts for getting essentially crap since 2007? Empty space? Try explain that to a Wii only owner who is a big fan of fighting games and tell him its okay. SSBB sold 10 mil so that makes up for him not being able to play Mvs.C2&3, SF3online, KOF12&13, TXSF, Tekken6, VF5, SF4, SSF4, newMK, MKvsDC, BlazBlue, etc. You see what Im saying about diversity??

its about taste, you're right. I found the game to be boring, it was like a hack and slash FF13. Run down corridors, beat up bland enemies do the same thing to a boss and occasionally shake your MOVE/Wiimote in a jerk off motion, no thanks ill go back to GOW, hell Id rather deal with Castlevania

getting the numbers from a post in here, didn't check if they are correct or not, i think it's in this thread or a similar one

i'm saying the difference is small but the titles lost are important ones, but none of them even touches SSBB, it's like saying Wii haven't got GTA IV, but we have GodFather and Scarface, it's not enough

it's about taste, i personally play SSBB with friends since 2008, also played some DragonBall on Wii and some SC4 on Ps3 for a small period of time, but SSBB is our most  played Wii game so it's all about taste again


thats just my point, you cant really say that Wii is diverse in the open world category, same as fighting genre, Godfather was released on HDs by the way



oniyide said:


thats just my point, you cant really say that Wii is diverse in the open world category, same as fighting genre, Godfather was released on HDs by the way

i don't say Wii wins the figher, it depends on taste, for SSBB fans it sure could, as well as the racing for Mario Kart fans (which are a lot of them)

i think it is more diverse

Wii is sports/party/dance based, HD is shooter based

but HD is more shooter based than Wii is party/sports based

 

if you count the numbers of titles released for each genre on each platform (DeduS post, regardless if they sold or not), Wii wins in 7 genres, Xbox360 in 3 and Ps3 in 2

and the only genres Wii is losing with a difference is RPG and Shooter, and wins with a difference the obvious ones as well as platformer, puzzle and simulation, from this point of view Wii has more choices per genre, regardless if Wii owners take advantage of this or not, which is why Wii lost almost all 3rd party support in 2011/2012



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dark_gh0st_b0y said:
oniyide said:


thats just my point, you cant really say that Wii is diverse in the open world category, same as fighting genre, Godfather was released on HDs by the way

i don't say Wii wins the figher, it depends on taste, for SSBB fans it sure could, as well as the racing for Mario Kart fans (which are a lot of them)

i think it is more diverse

Wii is sports/party/dance based, HD is shooter based

but HD is more shooter based than Wii is party/sports based

 

if you count the numbers of titles released for each genre on each platform (DeduS post, regardless if they sold or not), Wii wins in 7 genres, Xbox360 in 3 and Ps3 in 2

and the only genres Wii is losing with a difference is RPG and Shooter, and wins with a difference the obvious ones as well as platformer, puzzle and simulation, from this point of view Wii has more choices per genre, regardless if Wii owners take advantage of this or not, which is why Wii lost almost all 3rd party support in 2011/2012


Wrong, if we are talking more choices per genre, that means you have to count games available, NOT sales. fighting, RPGS(Western, strategy, Japanese), FPS, 3rd person shooters, sandbox, racing(simulation, arcade, kart), sports(arcade,Sim) thats 6 genres right there that HDs have more titles than Wii does.  I would love to see where you're getting these 7 genres from, name them. Name me 7 genres where Wii has more more games than the comp.  Ill give you party, exercise and minigame compilations, and platformers, just to get you started



Seece said:

Yeah a fair few do actually, Castle Crashers, Limbo and Braid did over 1 mill alone on XBLA, and that's off the top of my head.


Sorry but no

Braid didn't get close to 1 million on XBLA  http://gamasutra.com/view/news/39713/Xbox_Live_Arcade_by_the_numbers__the_2011_year_in_review.php only 463k entries on the leaderboard. Also you can see Splosion man is at 487k and Limbo is 892k. Castle crashers has over 2.5 million but multiplayer means one copy can have multiple entries on the leaderboard and isn't a platformer anyway. And in fact those numbers may be inflated because the games can be played using multiple accounts if the game is on the origonal console if I am not mistaken. 

Under half of Super Meat Boy's sales were on XBLA before the humble indie budle pushed it over a million with 345k copies, and as you can see from the gamasutra article is only in fact at 250k on XBLA.

So yea no platformer has crossed 1 million on XBLA unless you count Trials HD

 



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