Damn... the Wii is d00med!!!

If you weren't so selfish,  you would hope that Sony uses an architecture that's easy to work with (like Nintendo is doing) so that porting across platforms will be easy. As long as architecture is easy for devs, ports will take advantage of the system's power.

Engines are being made to scale even to smartphones and tablets.

Regardless of your selfish desires, devs will port to every available platform so they can make money.

No, the 7970 uses around 280W under load. But I admit that's a huge problem considering the X1900 only used 120W.

7970? 4 times Wii U? Wat?

Microsoft has seen what the casual market is about, don't expect them to just walk away from that and make a console that will cost so much money no ordinary family would want to buy it from the start. I proper rig with 7970 uses roughly 650 watt.

Let's just entertain the thought of a console with a 7970 deviation with beefy everything. The card alone costs 400+. You're saying u want sick graphics. Expect your games to cost way more. Why? Look at the production costs. Length of singleplayer parts of games have gone down by alot. Several studios can't handle that kind of cost when they know that there is a risk the game won't sell enough to even cover the costs.

Microsoft will probably bundle the Next Xbox with Kinect 2.0 and create a reliable console that doesn't RRoD in the first iteration of the console. Casuals are a big big market these days and Microsoft knows that. Just look at their campaigns with Windows Phone, Windows 7 etc. family driven activities. Unleashing a console that costs 400+ with a huge loss is not what they are going to do.... at all...

If the Wii U is 5 times Xbox 360 I will be pleased. Why? Because it will improve graphics and it will make it possible for developers to do many things. What Microsoft will do? Probably something similar because the Xbox 360 is just now begging to create profit. 6-7 years later. What Microsoft will do with the Xbox in the future it probably to make it a family console that can play movies go on the internet and play fun Kinect games the whole family can enjoy while still have enough power to please 'Hardcore'(Graphic lovers) gamers.

Sorry for my selfish desires but no, devs won't always port to platforms with significantly inferior hardware which is a lesson learned from this gen.

The cost of the GPU ain't the problem even if it is based on a high end Radeon 7900. A Radeon 7970 is already cheaper than what the X1900 cost at the time of the X360's launch, and we have another +1.5 years for manufacturing refinement and cost savings for the Nextbox GPU until it is released.

I just realized that the problem with the GPU is power usage. If the Nextbox is based on a GPU that draws 280W (Radeon 7970) while the X360 was based on a GPU that draws only 120W, we have an unsolvable big ass problem. And it will mean that Khuutra wins and I lose.

As someone already wrote the Wii's hardware was different in many ways. The Graphics pipeline was alot more static than the other two. The Wii had a similar pipeline as Gamecube and that's the main reason. Other's like lack of buttons on the controller forcing motion control was also a factor.

But if you really wanna talk about inferior hardware then let's just look at how PC does it. Scaling things down. There are many settings to tweak with and that's the same options they have here. U can have a really sucky rig and still play games. They may not look as good but still playable.

i can believe a 7950 could be used (or something similiar like that). needs i believe 200w under full load, has 2.9 tflops and i believe it doesn't cost more than the x1900 did cost at release in 2006 and we still have time until the release so the price will even shrink. maybe i'm wrong with the price but if nextbox will release in 2013 this could be the case.

If you are referring to the Wii, like I said last page Wii used ancient hardware that put it outside the realm of ports .

It basically used GC's 1998 technology.

That won't be the case for Wii U which is using more modern hardware and feature set.

 So yeah, sorry, hardware won't stand in the way of Wii U getting ports.

How much did the Xbox cost at release? How much did Microsoft loose on every console sold? It has just started making a profit and they probably don't want to go down that way again. Doesn't matter how much the x1900 cost they lost loads of money on Xbox 360 at launch. Take that into account and add the cost of a Kinect 2.0 which they will want to push with the console.

The power consumption and heat will be a major factor next gen and the 79xx series is way to power hungry and warm to go into a console.