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RolStoppable said:

Carl, did you see? The PSV is being outsold by the PSP, a last generation system. LOL!

I think most people got used to that when the Wii was outselling the PS3 and 360 all those Weeks, so long ago.



                            

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Carl2291 said:
RolStoppable said:

Carl, did you see? The PSV is being outsold by the PSP, a last generation system. LOL!

I think most people got used to that when the Wii was outselling the PS3 and 360 all those Weeks, so long ago.

When the Wii was outselling PS360 it was opposite, the only real new gen console outsold the two last gen consoles.



z101 said:
Carl2291 said:
RolStoppable said:

Carl, did you see? The PSV is being outsold by the PSP, a last generation system. LOL!

I think most people got used to that when the Wii was outselling the PS3 and 360 all those Weeks, so long ago.

When the Wii was outselling PS360 it was opposite, the only real new gen console outsold the two last gen consoles.


alrighty people, break it up.  I'd prefer not to lock a sales thread because it turned into a war of who can troll the hardest while still staying just on this side of something worth moderating.



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Sony just need to wait another 6 years untill 3ds reaches market saturation in Japan then people will have no alternative but to buy the PSV just like PSP has sold well since everyone had a DS.



VGKing said:
Seece said:
PS2's lowest week

Previous 2011-05-16 1,129


Doooooomed! :D

Lol, exactly.  Not sure what the point of that post really was.  How much does he expect the PS2 to be selling as it approaches its 12th year on the market?



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RolStoppable said:
radishhead said:

To be fair though, I only saw a few people claim that the Vita had a chance to beat the 3DS in sales- I imagine that most people expected a similar 3DS/Vita marketshare cut as we saw with DS/PSP

Not really. The general consensus among Sony fans pre-Vita launch seemed to be that the Vita wouldn't beat the 3DS, but garner higher marketshare than the PSP. Something along the lines of a 55/45 split instead of 67/33 or whatever it is for the DS and PSP.


i'll fess up that i predicted that pre-launch.  but in my defense that was also before monster hunter tri-G and 4 was announcement for 3DS.  huuuge blow to sony.  obviously only software can save the vita now ... wonder if we'll ever see that killer game for vita.  now i love sony's first party but there is no denying that their first party doesn't sell as well as nintendo's or MS's.   ... bleak days ahead my friend.



happydolphin said:
SleepWaking said:
happydolphin said:
RolStoppable said:
happydolphin said:

Meh, he summed it up good, but it's a sad reality of the site. Did it occur to you I was aware of what he was saying? I was just saying it was lame...

Who's to say that users don't learn? The lesson from past years is "enjoy while it lasts".

So if we are looking at a situation where dedicated gaming handhelds are apparently in a battle with smartphones and hardcore gamers need to sell the current machines (3DS, Vita) as much as possible to stop Apple and others, then maybe now is the time that Sony plays the role of the wounded soldier on the battlefield who tells his buddy Nintendo to leave him behind, because otherwise they will both die.

It's a possibility, but wouldn't you want the same had you been in their shoes? :P

@Sleepwaking You remind me of the nice crow in Galaki's thread. Good stuff ;/) I didn't realize this site was for watching people troll each other, I thought it was for debating business. Give yourself a pat on the back. ;).

Hey I enjoy sales numbers, but I also enjoy other things which a threads like this brings.  At least I'm not being al mighty and high as to what others can't and shouldn't enjoy. Just like I said let them be. Why would it hurt you if somebody is saying a console is dead?? 

Because it is not a fact, sounds stupid, reflects poorly on non-Sony fans (in my case a Nintendo fan) and does not reflect well on the community as a whole.

However, for those of you who can pull each others' legs and bring up each others' false predictions, by all means have fun! :D But to those purely bashing Vita I don't personally enjoy it. Sue me.


Hey I never said stop with what you are doing, I don't really care. I just said you were more annoying as a moral person who takes everything to seriously to me than the persons you were annoyed by.  Just like you are speaking out to them I can speak out to you however. I apparently cared enough for that. We should both know it's time wasted though, but it seems you like to do what you do and I like to do what I do, so maybe it isn't.



NintendoPie said:
jonnybmk said:

If the Vita would have blasted off into space and killed all 3DS sales, the Vita fans would all be marching 'round the campfire hootin' and hollerin' about how the Vita crushed the 3DS - and they would have let everyone know it, too.

But the reverse happened - the 3DS crushed the Vita. It's not that Sony botched the launch or did something wrong, it's that consumers are allocating their money to the 3DS INSTEAD of the Vita.

The poor Vita sales are a SYMPTOM of a larger problem for Sony - consumers are buying SOMETHING ELSE.


It's the same thing they did with the PSP, they are trying to put Console games on a portable. Which does not work, at all. Even though the PSVITA has analog controls, or a OLED screen, or a bigger data capacity it still doesn't mean Sony should put any console game on it. The reason why Nintendo has always won is because they have mastered this. (agreed with your comment.)

I disagree. There IS room for console games on a portable. But of course that portable also needs exclusive original games. A port machine just won't cut it.

The PSP sold over 70million. There is a market for people wanting console-like games on-the-go. The reason the PSP failed in its last few years is because...
-Piracy was so bad that many 3rd parties stopped supporting it
-Console games grew too big or to complex to be ported to the PSP
-DS domination all over the world made developers prefer that over the PSP
-Most imporrant of all was the lack of a 2nd analog stick or good online capabilities.

The Vita is everything the PSP should have been. People just need to know about it so they go out and buy it. 



kivi95 said:
jonnybmk said:

If the Vita would have blasted off into space and killed all 3DS sales, the Vita fans would all be marching 'round the campfire hootin' and hollerin' about how the Vita crushed the 3DS - and they would have let everyone know it, too.

But the reverse happened - the 3DS crushed the Vita. It's not that Sony botched the launch or did something wrong, it's that consumers are allocating their money to the 3DS INSTEAD of the Vita.

The poor Vita sales are a SYMPTOM of a larger problem for Sony - consumers are buying SOMETHING ELSE.

They have done something wrong. NO games for the Japanese market that can be a system seller.

The 3DS took ~8 months after launch to get its killer apps in Japan.  Give it time. Vita will get them too.



RolStoppable said:
BasilZero said:

Nintendo had 2-3 extra generations, so their market share is pretty dominating unlike Sony's marketshare in the Portable market!

Also ya Nintendo mastered, they have specific IPs (i.e. Pokemon for example) which sells their portables like hotcakes.

They also made sure their franchises become well known and well adapt to players unlike Sony who keeps on coming up with new IPs but their mostly focused on consoles than portables. There are a few rare good IPs on sony's PSP like LocoRoco but it isnt enough when going up against Nintendo's 1st class franchises *-*!

(honestly, I'm hoping the Vita gets more third party support, not interested in sony's 1st party support, I only like God of War and WipeOut from Sony xd).

If you aren't interested in Sony's first party games, you might as well wish that all the third party support goes to the 3DS. That way you have to buy only one system and have more money to spend on games.

Lack of a 2nd analog stick might be a deal breaker for most.