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I guess nobody has realized yet that there was no rule against talking at night.
There was also no rule that mafia couldn't talk during the day.

Like I said, I was testing some things. My little sheep follow even unspoken rules.

I also never told spurge that he could kill during the day. I said "you have one kill to use during the game".
Had he been following the unspoken rules, he might've only attempted a kill at night, as he never asked whether it was a daykill.




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Wonktonodi said:
Linkzmax said:

If you can't cite a time when radish was actually useful as town then you're making it up to sound better, period. You must remember when you were lynched for trying to have radish lynched just for being useless, right?

If I know something is not true and say it is I am making something up. If I vaguely recall something here and there over the course of all the games I am playing, without being able to site it exactly I am being honest. I still say he has been useful as town over the coarse of the games I played with him in, the moment you are referring to was day 1 of my 3rd game so I had only had 2 games with him and I felt a bit harsh for saying it then.  Now since you seem so sure I am making up that radish has been useful as town, you are pretty much saying he has always been useless as town and from a guy who is often giving him advice and trying to help him out that is really harsh.

Now as for you

You say I got MVP twice as scum to make me sound worse. Now was that you lying to make me sound worse or you remembering wrong and thus mistaking the facts to make a point?  Now that was a much easier thing to look up. Heck it's even easier to remember it was your round and last round.

Now let me know when you are done calling me a liar.

It is harsh, but I wouldn't call it very innaccurate. And yes it means I fail as a coach too. Saying he's more useful as town implies that he generally is more useful, it should be just as easy to recall a time where that's true.

I misremembered as I don't really care for awards. I mean they're cool, but I'd much rather just be playing another game. YOU brought up being a high priority target for being MVP twice recently, I questioned how that makes you awesome town and the implication was more how does it make you awesome in this game. Still, I conceded the point to you "Sorry I thought you were mafia and MVP twice in a row, but maybe it was FF that was mafia twice in a row? My archives is severly lacking. Point granted in that case.

As for looking things up, your entire case on radish was based on your one statement. The MVP thing was extremely minor.



theprof00 said:
I guess nobody has realized yet that there was no rule against talking at night.
There was also no rule that mafia couldn't talk during the day.

Like I said, I was testing some things. My little sheep follow even unspoken rules.

I also never told spurge that he could kill during the day. I said "you have one kill to use during the game".
Had he been following the unspoken rules, he might've only attempted a kill at night, as he never asked whether it was a daykill.

Did you actually expect anyone to talk during the day?

If you hadn't stated that dead players can't comment anymore do you think anyone would have chimed in?

They're the most basic rules of Mafia, and anyone with at least a game under their belt would follow them even if they aren't stated.

Spurge was just a vig that could kill during the day. It's logical that he would not assume it was a night action only.

Just an odd test, or subtest is my take.



I hope you enjoyed watching though.



Linkzmax said:
Wonktonodi said:
Linkzmax said:

If you can't cite a time when radish was actually useful as town then you're making it up to sound better, period. You must remember when you were lynched for trying to have radish lynched just for being useless, right?

If I know something is not true and say it is I am making something up. If I vaguely recall something here and there over the course of all the games I am playing, without being able to site it exactly I am being honest. I still say he has been useful as town over the coarse of the games I played with him in, the moment you are referring to was day 1 of my 3rd game so I had only had 2 games with him and I felt a bit harsh for saying it then.  Now since you seem so sure I am making up that radish has been useful as town, you are pretty much saying he has always been useless as town and from a guy who is often giving him advice and trying to help him out that is really harsh.

Now as for you

You say I got MVP twice as scum to make me sound worse. Now was that you lying to make me sound worse or you remembering wrong and thus mistaking the facts to make a point?  Now that was a much easier thing to look up. Heck it's even easier to remember it was your round and last round.

Now let me know when you are done calling me a liar.

It is harsh, but I wouldn't call it very innaccurate. And yes it means I fail as a coach too. Saying he's more useful as town implies that he generally is more useful, it should be just as easy to recall a time where that's true.

I misremembered as I don't really care for awards. I mean they're cool, but I'd much rather just be playing another game. YOU brought up being a high priority target for being MVP twice recently, I questioned how that makes you awesome town and the implication was more how does it make you awesome in this game. Still, I conceded the point to you "Sorry I thought you were mafia and MVP twice in a row, but maybe it was FF that was mafia twice in a row? My archives is severly lacking. Point granted in that case.

As for looking things up, your entire case on radish was based on your one statement. The MVP thing was extremely minor.


My case for radish? That is one other thing I dislike I was never driving the lynch of radish, I wanted a MDJ lynched. I was just pointing out how your case making him town wasn't a town tell because he has just done the same thing as scum. you then ask a minor question I gave a vague answer to and you are making that out to be my entire case LOL

However I will continue to disagree that he is less helpful to the town as town. and if you should look bakc trying to find that he is never helpful look for things like this

did he hammer more scum as town then as scum?

is he more posative and cheerful as a townie or as scum?

His participation as town vs scum?

when he is town and thinks there needs to be a lynch does he at least have a candidate?

Hey even in my game he did better when he was town then when he was scum and he was both that game(or is the general outlook of a game not good enough)

So thanks for the advice however I already follow it.  I do suggest you drop this though, I really don't like you calling me a liar.



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Linkzmax said:
theprof00 said:
I guess nobody has realized yet that there was no rule against talking at night.
There was also no rule that mafia couldn't talk during the day.

Like I said, I was testing some things. My little sheep follow even unspoken rules.

I also never told spurge that he could kill during the day. I said "you have one kill to use during the game".
Had he been following the unspoken rules, he might've only attempted a kill at night, as he never asked whether it was a daykill.

Did you actually expect anyone to talk during the day?

If you hadn't stated that dead players can't comment anymore do you think anyone would have chimed in?

They're the most basic rules of Mafia, and anyone with at least a game under their belt would follow them even if they aren't stated.

Spurge was just a vig that could kill during the day. It's logical that he would not assume it was a night action only.

Just an odd test, or subtest is my take.

some things I would have allowed, some things I wouldn't have.

I never discouraged those people from talking who talked at night. And I never discouraged mafia talking during the day either. I know they are basic rules, but the rules are the rules.  Don't take argument simply because you're surprised.

I never told spurge he could kill during the day. I said he had a kill. Nothing more. He could kill at night or during the day, but only once. I just never told him when he could.



Wonktonodi said:
Linkzmax said:

It is harsh, but I wouldn't call it very innaccurate. And yes it means I fail as a coach too. Saying he's more useful as town implies that he generally is more useful, it should be just as easy to recall a time where that's true.

I misremembered as I don't really care for awards. I mean they're cool, but I'd much rather just be playing another game. YOU brought up being a high priority target for being MVP twice recently, I questioned how that makes you awesome town and the implication was more how does it make you awesome in this game. Still, I conceded the point to you "Sorry I thought you were mafia and MVP twice in a row, but maybe it was FF that was mafia twice in a row? My archives is severly lacking. Point granted in that case.

As for looking things up, your entire case on radish was based on your one statement. The MVP thing was extremely minor.


My case for radish? That is one other thing I dislike I was never driving the lynch of radish, I wanted a MDJ lynched. I was just pointing out how your case making him town wasn't a town tell because he has just done the same thing as scum. you then ask a minor question I gave a vague answer to and you are making that out to be my entire case LOL

However I will continue to disagree that he is less helpful to the town as town. and if you should look bakc trying to find that he is never helpful look for things like this

did he hammer more scum as town then as scum?

is he more posative and cheerful as a townie or as scum?

His participation as town vs scum?

when he is town and thinks there needs to be a lynch does he at least have a candidate?

Hey even in my game he did better when he was town then when he was scum and he was both that game(or is the general outlook of a game not good enough)

So thanks for the advice however I already follow it.  I do suggest you drop this though, I really don't like you calling me a liar.

Yes your case, as in an explanation for your vote. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4370602 is all you said of him really.

IIRC last game he was on both scum lynches as scum and then gave up when it was just himself, that's pretty damn helpful to town!

What does positivity and cheerfulness have to do with helpfulness?

Can't say his activity has been markedly different any game, regardless of alignment.

I don't recall him ever saying there needed to be a lynch, and I don't believe there's been a time where he was first to suggest someone as suspicious either.

LOL, he was better as town in your game? You mean when he become the vote leader day one and would have been lynched because he didn't vote to cause a tie and save himself? But I'll throw that whole game out as an example because changing alignment(and therefore knowledge of the game) affects everything.

EDIT: I'm dropping it though. I apologize for saying you intentionally lied.



theprof00 said:

I never told spurge he could kill during the day. I said he had a kill. Nothing more. He could kill at night or during the day, but only once. I just never told him when he could.

I didn't mean you said that, I meant that in the very last game spurge was an anytime vig. Thus getting vig again it's logical to assume it can be a daytime ability again.



but he wasn't a vigilante.



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