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ahahahha closer to $600 than $250? Did Ninty not learn anything from Sony?

If it is truly like $500+ its going to flop hard and Sony/MS will be on top.

If Nintendo prices it high like $500, then I hope Sony's console is only like $299 so they can take top spot again.



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Roma said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Roma said:
Seece said:
Roma said:
primogen18 said:
All this Wii is dying talk, yet PS3 is at the bottom of the home console hardware chart and PSP is at the bottom of the charts period. How come I never see "Sony is dying" anywhere?

Those people actually see PSP and PS3 selling more than Wii DS and 3DS they can’t help it. They see what they want and ignore the truth

And now people are jumping the gun instead of hearing what the price will be in the end. That’s like accusing someone of doing something before they hear what they have to say

 

 

and to those i say look below

What have lifetime totals got to do with consoles dying?

The Wii is the one that is down millions YoY yet again, and heading for an early grave, whilst PS3 and X360 are enjoying their new peak years :-S sure they havn't won the generation but this isn't about that ...

PSP is dying as well though, both handhelds are only shipping 6 mill this year, and Wii is set to ship a few mill under PS3 and X360.

Well sure its selling less and less I mean it can’t sell the same numbers every year. Its dying compared to its previous numbers but not compared to the competition. We could easily say that when the HD twins sold low compared to Wii they were dying as well but thats not true

 

What do you mean by early grave? Even if Nintendo stopped production of Wii it would still have been out for more than 5 years which is the console life time so unless you started gaming when 360 came out you should know better



i don't completly believe that. Wii was killed to push Wiiu, and that's the main reason for the decline. 

lol you razed the bar even more by saying “killed”. I guess those numbers are just an “illusion” then.



you don't get what i mean. do you expect ninty to devote resources to Wii when they have a paperweight to promote? (Wiiu is a paperweight until it hits the market, and makes pofit)

the Wii is not selling because of future software releases, but because it's a cheap product, there's still a consumer base for it, and likely for the software that's already been released.

also Seece is right.



MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Roma said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Roma said:
Seece said:
Roma said:
primogen18 said:
All this Wii is dying talk, yet PS3 is at the bottom of the home console hardware chart and PSP is at the bottom of the charts period. How come I never see "Sony is dying" anywhere?

Those people actually see PSP and PS3 selling more than Wii DS and 3DS they can’t help it. They see what they want and ignore the truth

And now people are jumping the gun instead of hearing what the price will be in the end. That’s like accusing someone of doing something before they hear what they have to say

 

 

and to those i say look below

What have lifetime totals got to do with consoles dying?

The Wii is the one that is down millions YoY yet again, and heading for an early grave, whilst PS3 and X360 are enjoying their new peak years :-S sure they havn't won the generation but this isn't about that ...

PSP is dying as well though, both handhelds are only shipping 6 mill this year, and Wii is set to ship a few mill under PS3 and X360.

Well sure its selling less and less I mean it can’t sell the same numbers every year. Its dying compared to its previous numbers but not compared to the competition. We could easily say that when the HD twins sold low compared to Wii they were dying as well but thats not true

 

What do you mean by early grave? Even if Nintendo stopped production of Wii it would still have been out for more than 5 years which is the console life time so unless you started gaming when 360 came out you should know better



i don't completly believe that. Wii was killed to push Wiiu, and that's the main reason for the decline. 

lol you razed the bar even more by saying “killed”. I guess those numbers are just an “illusion” then.



you don't get what i mean. do you expect ninty to devote resources to Wii when they have a paperweight to promote? (Wiiu is a paperweight until it hits the market, and makes pofit)

the Wii is not selling because of future software releases, but because it's a cheap product, there's still a consumer base for it, and likely for the software that's already been released.

also Seece is right.

“killing” means ending something so your not using the word properly.

They still have software coming for it just not working on it fully.

A dying console is PSP/PS2 level sales not Wii sales





    R.I.P Mr Iwata :'(

Mummelmann said:
My ongoing feeling that the Wii U will perform a lot worse than the Wii is getting more coal in the fire daily. Nintendo will learn the hard way that price really does matter and they might end up looking silly against two or possible more consoles in and around the same price range with performance and hardware that is a lot more powerful. The Wii's performance was always reflected in the price, the Wii U will not have that benefit and will most likely suffer for it, the price is a much bigger part of the equation than many are willing to admit.

I also still remember fondly the days when everyone would point and laugh when you suggested that Nintendo would launch their next gen console first. This has been a truly weird generation and I can't say I'm sad to see it near the end, to be honest.

Wii's success had little to do with price. If we can remember the early years of Wii, the console was priced too low, and throughout 2007 and 2008 was going on eBay for levels similar to low-end 360 pricing at the time.

Exceptionally high price will do nothing to help Wii U, of course, but middling price (higher than Wii, but not prohibitively so) will have no effect one way or another. The important points will be games, and the question remains as to whether Nintendo has gotten their heads out of their asses in terms of giving mass-market titles or more GameCube titles (I as a gamer will be fine either way, of course, as i loved my purple lunchbox). Nintendo's fate relies on their choices in games more than anything else



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Seece said:

Well that's not the audience that made the Wii a success, neither is it the one that buys core games ...

I guess Nintendo have realised that a controller with a screen in it isn't anywhere near as easy to sell to casuals as the Wii was though (hence why they're desperatly trying to appeal to other audiences)

They're also making the grave mistake of thinking Wii is going to be remotely desireable after WiiU launch, the thing is declining rapidly 0_o


The last Nintendo console I owned was a Gamecube.(although I got it first my PS2 ended up becoming my main)

As a PS3-only owner I've been craving some of Nintendos IPs. A high-end Wii U sounds really appealing to me. There needs to be  a big gap between the Wii U and my PS3 and 360. If not the Wii U will have the same problem the Wii had once PS4/720 get released....



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A big lol at:  "In fact, based on the latest details from Nintendo’s North America President Reggie Fils-Aime, if I had to choose between a price for the Wii U between $250 and $600, I'd say it's going to cost closer to $600."

What Reggie in fact says, is "it will speak to a different consumer than the one that is buying the Wii today during the holidays." and "for consumers who want to have the latest gadgets and have a higher disposable income."

We all know it won't launch at $250, but even if it's more than the sweet spot of $299 (I believe it'll be no higher than $349), there's absolutely no way in hell it will retail for a penny more than $399, which is still closer to $250 than $600.  Again, lol!



Ehh the Max I am willing to spend I'd $400



MARCUSDJACKSON said:
NintendoPie said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
NintendoPie said:
spurgeonryan said:
NintendoPie said:
I like what Level1Death said, hahahahahah!


I will be one of the three.


 Well your lucky then. Because I doubt most people would pay above 500$ for a video game console including me, even though I am a gamer.

being a gamer doesn't mean you have to blow money on an over priced product. i'm so glad i'm a late adopter.


 I know but the people who are gamers would be the one to buy the more expensive version because you want to 'support' your favorite company (i.e. a fan) like me, except I wouldn't because I don't have 500$ or more all I get is Holiday/Birthday money. So people like littler kids or older people, or people who just sort of like to game (casual gamer) would most likely not buy it at that price point. Which most of the world are those people, so if they price it like that then most people won't buy it. That is mostly why the Wii won the console war for sales, because of it's good price point and overall fun games.

agreed but you still don't have to pay launch price for a console to be considerd i true or core gamer. it's not about loyalty or support. it's about fun and enjoying the experiance, and what you're able to do to support your fav. company.

Ninty knows not everyone will be able to afford the Wiiu, otherwise we'd never have pricedrops, and that's why i'm a late adopter. i paid for my PS3 with tips while i worked at Kroger, and i was not about to take my paycheck and blow it on a PS3. i didn't make enough anyway. it would have taken me a 2 wk's paycheck only to have $60 left over which i knew wasn't worth it.

it's all about economics , or better yet think of yourself as a business. what are your operating expenses, what can you afford to take risk on based on the capital that you've made off the product(you) you put out to make that money? if the product (you) only bring in $500 a wk., yet your expenses only allow for you to make $200 in profit for that month. are you going to go out and by a $200 Wii, or are you going to save that money?

the one thing you have to factor into all of that is monetary needs after general expenses, like car, repairs and other things of the sort. 

you don't want to buy a $200 console when you may need a new alternator. when you've saved money, or you've made enough to invest in the item in question without having to worry about other expenses then that's when you take the risk, but if you don't have to worry, then there is no risk. 

support comes with a price, and that price could very well be utilities, which would then defeat the purpose of the purchase of a Wiiu right?

capital first, needs second, and wants last. you want a Wiiu, but you don't haft to have one. you want to support your fav. company, but you don't haft to. it's all about you.


O_O



VGKing said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
NintendoPie said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
NintendoPie said:
spurgeonryan said:
NintendoPie said:
I like what Level1Death said, hahahahahah!


I will be one of the three.


 Well your lucky then. Because I doubt most people would pay above 500$ for a video game console including me, even though I am a gamer.

being a gamer doesn't mean you have to blow money on an over priced product. i'm so glad i'm a late adopter.


 I know but the people who are gamers would be the one to buy the more expensive version because you want to 'support' your favorite company (i.e. a fan) like me, except I wouldn't because I don't have 500$ or more all I get is Holiday/Birthday money. So people like littler kids or older people, or people who just sort of like to game (casual gamer) would most likely not buy it at that price point. Which most of the world are those people, so if they price it like that then most people won't buy it. That is mostly why the Wii won the console war for sales, because of it's good price point and overall fun games.

agreed but you still don't have to pay launch price for a console to be considerd i true or core gamer. it's not about loyalty or support. it's about fun and enjoying the experiance, and what you're able to do to support your fav. company.

Ninty knows not everyone will be able to afford the Wiiu, otherwise we'd never have pricedrops, and that's why i'm a late adopter. i paid for my PS3 with tips while i worked at Kroger, and i was not about to take my paycheck and blow it on a PS3. i didn't make enough anyway. it would have taken me a 2 wk's paycheck only to have $60 left over which i knew wasn't worth it.

it's all about economics , or better yet think of yourself as a business. what are your operating expenses, what can you afford to take risk on based on the capital that you've made off the product(you) you put out to make that money? if the product (you) only bring in $500 a wk., yet your expenses only allow for you to make $200 in profit for that month. are you going to go out and by a $200 Wii, or are you going to save that money?

the one thing you have to factor into all of that is monetary needs after general expenses, like car, repairs and other things of the sort. 

you don't want to buy a $200 console when you may need a new alternator. when you've saved money, or you've made enough to invest in the item in question without having to worry about other expenses then that's when you take the risk, but if you don't have to worry, then there is no risk. 

support comes with a price, and that price could very well be utilities, which would then defeat the purpose of the purchase of a Wiiu right?

capital first, needs second, and wants last. you want a Wiiu, but you don't haft to have one. you want to support your fav. company, but you don't haft to. it's all about you.


O_O

The whole thing needs bolding



 

leo-j said:
it worked so well for sony, they went from being market leader by a landslide to loosing a significant amount of brand recognition to microsoft and nintendo


Exactly so true lol. I can already forsee see how the Wii U will perform.