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Sony has a strong line-up next year. They have focused on Vita this year, because that is launching. Sony will make more PS3 announcements in the coming months for games hitting later in the year.



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From all the infos gathered in this thread, I'd say IMVHO maybe 2013 lineup will start drying, but 2012 should still be rich enough.



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o_O.Q said:
Michael-5 said:
mantlepiecek said:

@ Michael

Do YOU realize that games can be announced next year as well? This year primarily because of vita Sony has had to announce a lot of games at various events. And we still have 4 huge games for the next year. How many first party games did MS and nintendo release this year? If 4 games from one publisher is dry then we were pretty much in draught throughout the gen.

Yes, but of those games how many will release in 2012? I think it's more likely that more games will get delayed from a tentive 2012 launch into 2013, then those who will get announced in the next 6 months and release in fall 2012.

2008-2011 Sony announced more games then they have at the start of 2012, that's my point! 7 games from 1 publisher is a lot, but for Sony, it's a lot less then normal.

and lets not bring in MS or Nintendo, otherwise I'll have 10 more comments saying "360's library is shit, blind support to PS3!!!" and that's just annoying. Also it defeats my point. All first party developers have a dry 2012 lineup, with only a couple of real AAA titles.


"I think it's more likely"

"i think" "i think" "i think" for the most part thats what you've been doing so far just basing your claims off of how you think things should be as opposed to reality... you demonstrate this when i mention newly announced games like ruin and motorstorm rc and still don't see how flawed your argument is

"otherwise I'll have 10 more comments saying "360's library is shit, blind support to PS3!!!""

no one here has said the 360 library was bad let alone "shit" and why should it bother you that people are supporting the ps3?

finally i'd like to see you answer for what mantlepiecek said "I asked 2010, sony didn't release as many in that year." because i agree i'm almost certain that next year the ps3 will get more ( non-move ) 1st party exclusives than it did in 2010

Why would I try to force my opinion as fact? All I did in this thread was say my opinion, if it's been taken out of context as bashing Sony, that's not me doing it, that 5 people quoting me in shock that someone said something negative about Sony and PS3.

The fact of the matter is I agree that Sony has done an excellent job with first party exclusives over the past few years, I always agreed with that (and probably should have mentioned it in my first comment, eish people are senstive).

For future claims I still stand by my opinion, but it's nice that people let me become aware of more games. Still, less games then before, and most notably, a lot less AAA games (The Last of Us and The Last Guardian......The Last AAA PS3 games :P).

I only brought on the fact, that for PS3 in the future, this support looks to be drying up, and work is being transfered to PS4.

Opinions are chains of thought, they can't be wrong if they are based off logical backing (less games = dry lineup), even if people named a few games probably many of us were unaware of, the lineup is still far from saturated. Just because you disagree, doesn't make my point any less valid. Trying to force me to agree with you, with your scary avatar, that's wrong.

No one said the 360 library was bad? Do you not remember Aldro making a list of PS3 and 360 exclusives for no reason at all, and reposting the list when I didn't reply to him at first? Didn't say it was crap, but he said the stuff that comes to PS3 is amazing, and a lot more compared to its competition (hence the competition is not as good).

I'm not sure about your question for 2010 at the end. 2010 was a weak your for PS3, yes, and back then I thougt the consoles were over the hill as well. I was wrong as 2011 is looking to be the strongest year for both HD consoles again. I could be very wrong here too (that's why it's called opinion and not fact), the PS3 and 360 could continue to sell well into 2015 as primary consoles, but I hope (I hope, I said this before) that we see a PS4 and Nextbox soon because most games now are just sequals, and console lifespans are super long. I think because of the dry lineup on all consoles, and the Wii U potentially taking away a lot of sales in 2012, we will see a PS4 soon, and I think the reason the lineups are very dry is because they Sony and MS and Nintendo are putting first party effort into next gen consoles (and 3DS and Vita). Off topic question there, hope I answered it.



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NoCtiS_NoX said:
CGI-Quality said:

Good Lord this thread! Really guys?

To me, it looks like 2012-2013 will probably be a shared period of about 5-10 core exclusives for PS3 and then an announcement of the PS4 sometime in 2013. Just give me The Last Of Us before March 2013 and I will be happy Sony!


Why not ask Michael-5?

I don't know why he brought up how dry PS3 line-ups 2012 and how a lot PS3 got delayed badly in here. This was supposed to be fun light hearted thread and have fun discussing the PS3 exclusive but ofcourse there will be a one guy crashing the party and try to ruined it for everybody. 

I brought it up because I agree with the other statement in the OP (PS3 have great first party support in the past). People just know how to take anything I say, the slightest bit negative about the PS3, way out of proportion.

Doesn't it just make more sense to say "I disagree" or "I agree?" A lot of people said "I agree", but the people who disagreed prefered to attempt to forcefully change my opinion....and failed.

If people just stuck with well mannered responses, the thread would have been fun mannered. Not my fault people hate so much. Why did you crash the party?

Alby_da_Wolf said:
From all the infos gathered in this thread, I'd say IMVHO maybe 2013 lineup will start drying, but 2012 should still be rich enough.

Wish more people just did this. Respectable opinion.

What do you think will happen to franchises like Uncharted, Resistance, Killzone and LittleBigPlanet? Will we see another sequal, or are they planinng on making those franchise PS4 (or killing them off?)

Tridrakious said:
Sony has a strong line-up next year. They have focused on Vita this year, because that is launching. Sony will make more PS3 announcements in the coming months for games hitting later in the year.

Really? I think the oposite. When Nintendo announced the 3DS, support for the Wii virtually stopped and some games were even transfered to the Wii U (Pikmin 3). I would think Sony would do something similar, but less extreme.



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NoCtiS_NoX said:
Michael-5 said:

Not all games take forever to localize, Final Fantasy XIII-2 releases like 2 months after it's Japan release. Japanese titles are no exception to Sony's first party library.

But that's not the point is it? The game was still release on 2008 right?  If It weren't then you have an argument. 

Also 1.5 years for some titles balances out with 2.5 for others. 2 years is a common normal.

I have shown you a lot of titles with mos. only.

For GT6, Polyphony Digital officiall announced they are working on a GT6. The game has been announced. Were not talking about knowing a game is in development (We all knew there was going to be an Uncharted 3 after Uncharted 2).

I'm cherry picking? Most games fall within a 1.5-2.5 year announce to release span, and I said same are noticably longer (like Last Guardian, which still isn't out). Who is to say their games announced 2008 and after won't be delayed? Maybe Starhawk will be a 2014 title? How can you know that it won't given Sony's past history? I mean since the launch of PS3 there has always been a game in development which didn't release until over 3 years after launch, and I'm sure after Last Guardian releases, there will be something else (likely a PS4 game though).

Again I am not even arguing about the delays. It's pretty common in the industry. I am qouting you because you said that Sony announced a lot of their games far too early and  its' common for them to release it after 2-3 years. I already gave you a lot of examples that Sony release their games on 1 year time frame or so when they were announced while you, can only give me few and that's the 4 games you still keep hanging on.

As 2008 part what are the games that was announced on 2008 that hasn't been release yet can you please name some.

The cherry picking is on the GT 6 and to your Japanese game list only. GT 6 was not formally announced, PD just confirmed they are working on it. IIRC it came from an interview. Notice why we still haven't seen a trailer for it because it wasn't formally or offically announced.

Confiming my arguement to 2012 games doesn't derail the thread. The thread is about Past present and future PS3 games, we all know past and present are excellent, so I only commented about the future. You don't have to quote just me, if I only talk about half the OP. 

Can you please read the OP again? The sole purpose of this thread is to discuss how awesome PS3 exlusives are and how Sony are delivering and Sony keeps on making games on the PS3. He doesn't care if it was delayed or How dry the PS3 line-up on 2012.

As for the PS3 dying, it has a lot to do with the thread. Were talking about Sony's great games, past, present, and future. The future is PS4, PS3 doesn't have much left in it.

 

Is  PS4, PS3?

Again way to miss the point of the OP. This is a light hearted thread to discuss future PS3 games. Like you know Last of Us, Starhawk, Sly 4, MLB 2012, Last guardian, Twisted metal and the potential games from some the Sony devs. Maybe if you have said "I think some of those projects will be on the PS4" and didn't add something like  PS3's  2012 line-up is dry, Sony is known for delays and Sony announced game far too early. We won't be in this mess. We aren't even talking about that but ofcourse you feel the need to add those and try to ruined a very light hearted thread.

 

 I mean I didn't expect 10+ responses to my comment, I was just pointing out this observation of mine. People are too sensitive. If talking about PS3's future being dry is too much for you, then talk about the present, geez.

 

Sensitive? I don't even care about your opinion. It's just that this isn't the thread for your so called observation. The OP did't even ask for that. If this thread was about "what do you think about the PS3 future" then feel free to post on your thoughts but this thread is about PS3 exclusives from the past, present and the future.

 



But no. White Knight Chronciles wasn't released in Americas in 2008. It was announced in 2007, and released in 2010.

If I lived in Japan and had to wait a year extra for a western game, that would count too.

The 4 games I mentioned (Heavy Rain, GT5, Killzone 2, and The Last Guardian), were released 3.5-5 years after announcement. Except for The Last Guardian, you brought them back up, not me. I still provided a handful of games with development times of 2 years plus, and I limited that to 2008+. Regardless add The Last Guardian, White Knight Chronciles, and a sizable amount of games with a 1.5-2 year life span, plus the handful of games you mentioned (LBP2, and Killzone 3) and I would still think the average announce to release rate is somewhere between 1.5 and 2 years.

I do agree, Sony is better now then it was before, a lot better, but you can't just forget about Last Guardian and well all of Sony's Japanese games. The take longer to release and localize, and generally their bigger games do take over 1.5 years to release after announcing.

Can you stop telling me to read the OP? You read the OP. I already said I agree with Sony having a great past, but I don't think the future for the PS3 will be as fruit full. If this topic is derailing from the OP, it's because you keep quoting me and trying to change my opinion on the one aspect of the OP I disagree upon (the future).

Why shouldn't I say 2012 PS3 has a dry line-up? Why does everyone on VGC have to have a super optimistic view of PS3? Why should I tip toe what I want to say around the feeling of others. Stop being senstive, accept others have a different opinion, and grow up. I think most of the unconfirmed projects will be PS4 games AND I think PS3 has a dry 2012 lineup, accept that.

Disagree if you like, but don't force your opinion onto me, and don't whine when I tell you off.

Wow....you keep telling me to read the OP, but you just contradicted yourself. So I should make my own thread to talk about the PS3's future with Sony's first party games, but in a thread about past, present, and future PS3 first party games, I shouldn't include it? That literally, makes no sense, stop being senstive.



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Michael-5 said:
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Alby_da_Wolf said:
From all the infos gathered in this thread, I'd say IMVHO maybe 2013 lineup will start drying, but 2012 should still be rich enough.

Wish more people just did this. Respectable opinion.

What do you think will happen to franchises like Uncharted, Resistance, Killzone and LittleBigPlanet? Will we see another sequal, or are they planinng on making those franchise PS4 (or killing them off?)

I think they won't release the next chapters of all the franchises you listed either on PS3 or PS4, IMVHO it's more likely that some will end up on PS3 and some on PS4, which ones will depend on how far the respective developments have gone, but also on the respective needs of PS3 for the last part of its life and PS4 for its launch. I don't think Sony will kill any, I guess it just simply regrets not having enough cash to advertise them all properly (but at least Uncharted received a huge marketing effort and budget). KZ and LBP have both unexpressed potential, pushing them more, and in an appropriate way, could give more satisfaction. Also, for the last part of PS3 life, its game library is becoming large enough to allow Sony to release a large budget edition library when PS3 will become its entry level offer (or mid range, if PS2 will be still kept alive after PS4 launches). I was also thinking PS3/PS4 multiplats could be possible.



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Alby_da_Wolf said:
Michael-5 said:
[...]

Alby_da_Wolf said:
From all the infos gathered in this thread, I'd say IMVHO maybe 2013 lineup will start drying, but 2012 should still be rich enough.

Wish more people just did this. Respectable opinion.

What do you think will happen to franchises like Uncharted, Resistance, Killzone and LittleBigPlanet? Will we see another sequal, or are they planinng on making those franchise PS4 (or killing them off?)

I think they won't release the next chapters of all the franchises you listed either on PS3 or PS4, IMVHO it's more likely that some will end up on PS3 and some on PS4, which ones will depend on how far the respective developments have gone, but also on the respective needs of PS3 for the last part of its life and PS4 for its launch. I don't think Sony will kill any, I guess it just simply regrets not having enough cash to advertise them all properly (but at least Uncharted received a huge marketing effort and budget). KZ and LBP have both unexpressed potential, pushing them more, and in an appropriate way, could give more satisfaction. Also, for the last part of PS3 life, its game library is becoming large enough to allow Sony to release a large budget edition library when PS3 will become its entry level offer (or mid range, if PS2 will be still kept alive after PS4 launches). I was also thinking PS3/PS4 multiplats could be possible.

Obviously they won't all go to PS3 or PS4, but I do think we have seen the last of some franchises on PS3. I think Killzone 4 will either be a launch PS4 game, or a late PS3 game, Uncharted.....could go anywhere. Naughty Dog didn't hold onto Crash or Jak, so it might just make a new IP all togehter for next gen. However Uncharted will still exist, just be developed by someone else. I think if anything we will see Killzone 4 on PS3, but there is a chance there will be one last LBP. As for Resistance, I think it will be killed off. When shooters don't sell, they don't last long.

I also think GT6 will be an early PS4 title. GT3 did so well releasing early on PS3 and then getting bundled, I think GT6 will follow suit. Multiplats are possible too, but I only see LBP being multiplat. This isn't the days of NES/SNES.

Multiconsole games will more likely be multiplat, with Wii U having intermediate graphics between this gen and next, and PS3/360 will likely have strong enough software sales to support this decision.



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The PS3 really does has some great games releasing in the future. It seems like Sony devs have really began to expand and improve in terms of efficiency. With devs finally mastering the system (LOL) & a few actually breaking up into multiple studios, it looks like the PS3's later will be excellent.

I'm really excited to see what Santa Monica is doing. It's been a while since their last masterpiece, God of War 3, and we still haven't heard from them.

Also, really amped for what Sucker Punch. I remember earlier this year, before inFamous 2 released, they announced that they were working on a game other than Sly or InFamous. I wonder what it could be?

And then you have developers like Media Molecule & Guerrilla Games (who I believe has the most untapped potential) working on new IPs also. These next few years should really be great for the console.

I cant wait for E3!

EDIT: Also, anyone know what Quantic Dream is doing. Haven't heard from them in nearly two years. There was a rumor a while back that they were developing a Dreamcast sequel for the PS3. Anyone have any recent news?



I think sony is turning most of its bigger studios into 2 team studios and attempting to debut new ips from established developers on the ps3(with its large install base ) instead of on ps4 like they did this gen therefore making their potential sequels on ps4 much more successful(the god of war 3 effect).
probable examples
-naughty dog making last of us and uncharted 4 for ps4
-santa monica making new ip and GOW game for ps4
-GG making new ip and KZ4 for ps4
-sucker punch making new ip and infamous 3 for ps4.



Why would I be baffled? They're doing a good job and I'm very happy.