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Obviously you're being reasonable, so I have no problems with you. Not that I agree with your opinion very much on this or FFXIII. :D

I agree in using the full 1-10 scale. However, you need to get the whole site on that train with you. Otherwise it makes you look like jim sterling. (Your review was much better than his review of FFXIII, though he had everyright to dislike it his review just sucked) But this site gave similar games, Resonance of Fate, and FFXIII an 8 and a 9 respectively and even Arc Rise of Fantasia a 6.

I know it's different reviewers but the truth is, I think people want to see a somewhat consistent scale so they can use scores to sort of compare games, atleast within a certain range. And FFXIII-2 is way off the range of 13, resonance of fate, and even Arc.

Now I'm not saying you should automatically score FF13-2higher, but I think if you haven't you should push this site to use the whole scale and not just you (which no matter how much they argues).

I'm 10 hours in and I really love it. (I actually thought the first hour or 2 was the worst part so far. But that's me).

Some of the problems you describe, aren't unique to this one imo. Characters that make little sense battle . The game being easy. It took me 15 hours to die once in FF9, Most of FF6, FF10 it took 30 hours before I died. Not that isn't a flaw, but it's a flaw I consider most FF's to have. But still, if it bothers you, it bothers you so I have no problem with you taking it off.

Also, hatmoza should quit hating the game before he plays it, or leave.



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Lol a 5.4 really? I believe that crack in faith I have earlier is now about the size of cocoon's cracked shell.

Though I do agree on the inconsistent difficulty part.

Personally don't agree with the score (we really need to eliminate these damn scores!), but I understand that you may not like certain aspects about the game. People are different.



hatmoza said:
outlawauron said:
About what I expect from your review.


:3

I'm happy with it. I personally think it's a little too high though.


Are you ever going to argue a point, or are you going to continously rant about your distaste for XIII?

WE KNOW YOU DON'T CARE. WE GOT IT THE FUCKING FIRST 3000 TIMES. ok?!!?

Pretty sad that I actually needed to post that.



Wagram said:
hatmoza said:
outlawauron said:
About what I expect from your review.


:3

I'm happy with it. I personally think it's a little too high though.


Are you ever going to argue a point, or are you going to continously rant about your distaste for XIII?

WE KNOW YOU DON'T CARE. WE GOT IT THE FUCKING FIRST 3000 TIMES. ok?!!?


Argue what? I just said I agreed with the review. No need to go in an all caps rage.

 

Plus, if you really want to see my arguments to why I disliked XIII, you'll find plenty of them scattered throughout 2010 forums.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

hatmoza said:
Wagram said:
hatmoza said:
outlawauron said:
About what I expect from your review.


:3

I'm happy with it. I personally think it's a little too high though.


Are you ever going to argue a point, or are you going to continously rant about your distaste for XIII?

WE KNOW YOU DON'T CARE. WE GOT IT THE FUCKING FIRST 3000 TIMES. ok?!!?


Argue what? I just said I agreed with the review. No need to go in an all caps rage.

 

Plus, if you really want to see my arguments to why I disliked XIII, you'll find plenty of them scattered throughout 2010 forums.


you can't agree with the review if you haven't played FF13-2.



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hatmoza said:
Wagram said:
hatmoza said:
outlawauron said:
About what I expect from your review.


:3

I'm happy with it. I personally think it's a little too high though.


Are you ever going to argue a point, or are you going to continously rant about your distaste for XIII?

WE KNOW YOU DON'T CARE. WE GOT IT THE FUCKING FIRST 3000 TIMES. ok?!!?


Argue what? I just said I agreed with the review. No need to go in an all caps rage.

 

Plus, if you really want to see my arguments to why I disliked XIII, you'll find plenty of them scattered throughout 2010 forums.


Hatmoza it is fine if you don't like XIII. Obviously you never planned to buy XIII-2. The problem I have with you is that if you search your own post history, you're in every single XIII-2 thread posting something negative. You agreed with a review for a game you've never played, and never planned to play. You're not arguing a point, but rather repeating yourself over, and over in every XIII-2 related thread in slightly altered ways.



I played XIII-2 ...

But I'll be the bigger man and step aside. A lot of you are getting really worked up and the last thing I intended to do was piss anyone off. Enjoy your game. If you like it, there's no reason to get upset with what I believe about the game.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

hatmoza said:
I played XIII-2 ...


Demo doesn't count.

4 days ago from Hatmoza: "Well, I don't think I'll be breaking any OP rules if I simply say I will not be getting this game."

2 weeks ago: "I will never buy this game. Fool me twice, shame on me."

Sorry if I find it difficult to take you at your word.

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Anywho, some of these monsters are a bitch to catch. They have worse catch rate than Pokeballs!



Wagram said:
hatmoza said:
I played XIII-2 ...


Demo doesn't count.

4 days ago from Hatmoza: "Well, I don't think I'll be breaking any OP rules if I simply say I will not be getting this game."

2 weeks ago: "I will never buy this game. Fool me twice, shame on me."

Sorry if I find it difficult to take you at your word.

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Anywho, some of these monsters are a bitch to catch. They have worse catch rate than Pokeballs!


True to my word, I didn't put a single penny towards it.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

ishiki said:

Obviously you're being reasonable, so I have no problems with you. Not that I agree with your opinion very much on this or FFXIII. :D

I agree in using the full 1-10 scale. However, you need to get the whole site on that train with you. Otherwise it makes you look like jim sterling. (Your review was much better than his review of FFXIII, though he had everyright to dislike it his review just sucked) But this site gave similar games, Resonance of Fate, and FFXIII an 8 and a 9 respectively and even Arc Rise of Fantasia a 6.

I know it's different reviewers but the truth is, I think people want to see a somewhat consistent scale so they can use scores to sort of compare games, atleast within a certain range. And FFXIII-2 is way off the range of 13, resonance of fate, and even Arc.

Now I'm not saying you should automatically score FF13-2higher, but I think if you haven't you should push this site to use the whole scale and not just you (which no matter how much they argues).

I'm 10 hours in and I really love it. (I actually thought the first hour or 2 was the worst part so far. But that's me).

Some of the problems you describe, aren't unique to this one imo. Characters that make little sense battle . The game being easy. It took me 15 hours to die once in FF9, Most of FF6, FF10 it took 30 hours before I died. Not that isn't a flaw, but it's a flaw I consider most FF's to have. But still, if it bothers you, it bothers you so I have no problem with you taking it off.

Also, hatmoza should quit hating the game before he plays it, or leave.

Truth be told I'm quite amazed that I'm getting this much respect out of people.  After some of my other reviews I was worried some people would just turn the review comments and this thread into a flame-war about it...since it is basically lower than any other published score to date.  That said, I agree with the consistent scale and if you take a look around, you'll see that we do give a decent amount of games sub-5 scores. AMY got like...2 or something, I've given a 3.7, some games that others loved I gave 50's (Tekken Hybrid, Rocketbirds), so I know it's not just me.  In fact we recently got a talking to about reminding us to use the full spectrum.  

But anyway, After 10 hours I really liked it to. the first 5 hours I was planning on giving it a high 7, then as time went on, it was hovering around high 6, then about the halfway point things just got lame for me.  The battles were so boring that my eyes started to glaze over and I experimented seeing what I could get done while the game played itself. I started chatting to people with my controller on my lap, not even paying attention as I pressed X a few times in between chat logs.  

As time went on I started just not touching the controller at all, waiting as the allies took care of it.  I got some interesting conversations out of the whole ordeal, and that's when I decided that, even though it had some great improvements to the formula, it was too tedious, too boring, and too shallow for me to give a positive score to the gameplay.  I wanted to like it and for a while I did, but a game so boring you actively look for other things to do while it plays itself cannot get a good score. If any other genre did this, people would be up in arms about it.  a game should not play itself, Final Fantasy was best when it was a slower, more deliberate battle system that enabled you to plan and prepare and control everything.   Final Fantasy XIII and XIII-2 were all style and flash, no substance.  (for comparison I would have given Final Fantasy XIII a 2 in the gameplay department) 

but yeah, gotta use the whole scale, and a 5.4 isn't good, but it's not horrible either. 



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