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tolu619 on 27 November 2011

The gameplay better be unique and able to accommodate a wide variety of characters. If not, this will end up as a good idea executed terribly. If it plays similarly to any fighting game I've played before, I'll be totally disappointed. At the end of the day, it's a fighter so it will have some similarities with other fighters.



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IamAwsome on 27 November 2011
M.U.G.E.N said:
IamAwsome said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
IamAwsome said:
PullusPardus said:
RolStoppable said:
PullusPardus said:

where is my Jak and Daxter sequel then? =[

Sony milks an IP for what it's worth and then moves on. Jak and Daxter fell below the treshold where it was worth continuing, so its developers were encouraged to move on to something new. Of the three PS2 platformer series, only the bestselling one was continued on the PS3. Everything that doesn't sell well enough anymore is either discontinued or handed to a second tier development studio.


@Bolded

so how is that different from Nintendo?

Nintendo also doesn't hand it's most valuable IPs to less competent developers, the only time they did was when they handed Metroid to, at the time, unproven Retro. This gen alone, LittleBigPlanet, Resistance, God of War, Sly Cooper, and what was supposed to be Playstation Move Heroes, all at one point, were seeded to smaller developers, and I'll bet that Resistance, LBP, and inFamous will be in the hands of smaller devs next gen. Do you see Nintendo handing Mario and Zelda off to whoever asks for it? No. 


umm I don't think they just hand it over to people who 'ask' for it >_> doubt that's how it works

and fyi, even people mentioned games like move heroes as bad games that came out of such a move, no one mentioned Ready at dawn games etc. They were fantastic games and the quality was very very high. so no, not everything is about ninty vs sony. they are different companies, they do things differently, doesn't mean A is better than B or vice versa. and also aren't there bunch of spin off mario games done by smaller devs? who made Mario Tennis?

According to an article on g4tv.com, it works something like that, but not exactly. 

The PSP GOW games were good, but the difference is that Ready at Dawn is a proven dev (They made Daxter), and Nhilistic isn't (They've been in business since '95 and haven't made a decently reviewed game yet). 

It's not necesserily about Nintendo vs Sony, it's just that Sony makes some questionable decisions reguarding their IPs. 

Mario Tennis was made by Camelot, which unlike Nhilistic, is a proven dev. 


Daxter is also an important game for Sony and Ready at Dawn did wonders with that one as well

All I'm saying all companies have made such deceisions. and I would say don't rely on g4tv for anything factual like that. Chances are the company showed some promise in the work they presented Sony. could be hit or miss really. And Resistance is an IP that is declining in popularity, it's not like they gave them Uncharted or GOW

and I'm just curious, what have camelot done to make them a proven dev? I just checked on wiki and it all just lists some genesis IP >_> I would hardly call that as as being 'proven' ..maybe we just have different ideas of that term. I mean you do realize Nhilistic have made some known games before too right? Like Conan, Marvel Nemesis etc. 

I agree with you on the second paragraph. 

Camelot made the Shining series, which got a lot of praise back in the day. According to IGN, Conan took a lot of ideas from God of War, and got poor reviews as a whole, and Marvel got really bad reviews. I guess we do have different definitions. -__-



Kenology on 27 November 2011
badgenome said:

It was all but confirmed from the moment Nintendo announced Super Smash Brothers. The only surprise is that it's taken this long.


I literally laughed out loud.  So true.



Dgc1808 on 27 November 2011
RolStoppable said:
PullusPardus said:

where is my Jak and Daxter sequel then? =[

Sony milks an IP for what it's worth and then moves on. Jak and Daxter fell below the treshold where it was worth continuing, so its developers were encouraged to move on to something new. Of the three PS2 platformer series, only the bestselling one was continued on the PS3. Everything that doesn't sell well enough anymore is either discontinued or handed to a second tier development studio.

Jak 3, the weakest selling and the last main Jak game, outsold 5 Ratchet games according to this site.



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green_sky on 27 November 2011
ElGranCabeza said:
green_sky said:
o_O.Q said:
bobgamez said:
lol and all the sony fans say super smash brothers is stupid is having an orgy. lol so much irony

it'll probably fall flat on it's face though, not enough iconic characters

who here specifically said smash bros was stupid?

No one. 

Well, I think the concept is stupid and I don't like SSMB at all.

What do you like. Just curious. 



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Dgc1808 on 27 November 2011

I hate all this talk of sales and how SONY doesn't have enough big names.

1) Not every character in Brawl was that popular. Metroid hasn't been doing big numbers for ages. Fire Emblem never did. SONY has a number of franchises that are on par or bigger than the likes of Fire Emblem, Pikmim, Metroid, Ice Climbers, Kid Icarus, Star Fox, F-Zero, and Earthbound. These days Kirby isn't even exactly selling that big compared to SONY's big names.

What's left is just Mario, Pokemon and to a lesser extent, Zelda. I actually loaded up the game just now to look at the roster again and really, there aren't that many franchises in this game anyway that SONY can't compete with. They even use character that hardly anyone knows about like ROB, Mr Game and Watch.

2) Does anyone give a shit about a game just being good anymore? Smash would still be fun without the Mario and Legend of Zelda cast, people. At my school, a lot of the people that play with certain character really don't know anything about their original games. They just like the character they're playing with in the game that they're playing and that's all that matter.



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Dgc1808 on 27 November 2011
RolStoppable said:
Dgc1808 said:

Jak 3, the weakest selling and the last main Jak game, outsold 5 Ratchet games according to this site.

How many of the first three Ratchet games were among the five Ratchet games that sold less than Jak 3? Zero?


The point is that Ratchet sunk lower than Jak ever did and faster as well. SONY's still publishing Ratchet titles and it was a shocker than Jak even got a PSP game a little while back.



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Iveyboi on 27 November 2011

SACKBOY versus KRATOS. My money is on Sackboy!



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Rainbow Yoshi on 27 November 2011
RolStoppable said:
Dgc1808 said:
RolStoppable said:

How many of the first three Ratchet games were among the five Ratchet games that sold less than Jak 3? Zero?

The point is that Ratchet sunk lower than Jak ever did and faster as well. SONY's still publishing Ratchet titles and it was a shocker than Jak even got a PSP game a little while back.

That means zero then.

Going into the seventh generation, Sony had to make decisions. IPs that weren't overly successful were put on the backburner and who knows if even R&C would have been continued, if it weren't for Insomniac having enough capacity to work on two games at the same time. Chances are that Sony would have axed that too, because R&C doesn't really fit into a gameplan to compete with Microsoft. That's why Resistance and inFamous were made, that's why Uncharted didn't become as fantasy orientated as it was initially planned by Naughty Dog.


I've got to admit, this is post is one of your best for a while as it is not silly in anyway.

Anyway to the point. Nintendo came up with a fantastic idea when they formed Super Smash Bros. and Sony is really the only other company in gaming to form a vast host of playable characters. I hope Sony don't call this Sony Smash Bros. because I am sure "Smash Bros." is copyrighted.



Tridrakious on 27 November 2011

Here I thought the rivalry was Microsoft vs. Sony. But man this is a heated war between Sony and Nintendo fanboys...I've been out of the fight for a long time.