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Seece on 23 November 2011
Joelcool7 said:
Seece said:
 

I'm just asking you to be considerate to other people, at the least you could at least post the content in the next post.


I try to be considerate that is why I have included the source to begin with. In the past prior to this year I rarely ever provided a source, I used to create topics based on press releases and personal convo's. But I changed that as well as many other aspects of how I create threads taking constructive critisism into consideration.

You're not going out of your way providing a link, that's the done thing, if you make a topic on some IGN article but don't post a source, someone else has every right to make a new thread, link the source, and have your thread locked.

Look my own writing style isn't going to change. I try to make the articles shorter and I try to write as considerate as possible. But I am not going to change what makes me , me. You may not like me and some other users don't either but their are people who do adn it wouldn't benefit me at all to completely change what some people like.

I'm not asking you to change, just to be more considerate like I said before. It's fine if you don't want to even do that though, If I see any of your threads I'll just post the link content myself or urge others too, you're just being awkward not obliging. Again you ignored my point about people not being able/not wanting to click on certain sources (and that's entirely their right) so the only content they have to read is your opinion. That's fine for people that like reading your long drawn out pretentious writing style, but a large bulk of people don't.

Also again I have tried to be considerate you and I just don't seem to get a long. As for your comment about getting me banned I can qoute it "I'll have you banned for that "

That was in regards to you calling me a scumbag, and you were banned, and rightly so. It was no threat. Also you need to be careful twisting situations like that as it calls into question a member of staff and tries to make them look bad.

Look based on things you have said and coupled with comments like that it is clearly a threat. I don't see any other users saying "I'll have you banned for that" its one thing to say comments like that will get you banned or a mod might ban you for that. But you specifically said "I'll have you". That is pretty high and mighty of a statement if your going to call me out for being high and mighty I will obviously call you out.

It's not high and mighty, it's me telling you I'm reporting you for outright breaking a rule, you just need to deal with that. Any member on this site can say exactly what I said if you said the same to them.

As for you writing I am aware of VGChartz. Not your specific position but reporting any of the facts you stated are still reporting. A writer writing any of those jobs should be a writer. Either way you report news I don't know how you think writing on a website is not reporting.

Again with the twisting, you originally called me out for being a news writer (which you meant in the way of industry news) and contained speculation ect. Which is wrong.

Anyways as I said I am taking every peice of critisicm into consideration. Including yours, I also try my best to be considerate but as I said their is only so much I will do.

Anyways I notice we are going off topic, do you have anything to actually say about the topic? If you wish to consider the talk above, PM me or write on my wall. I would be glad to continue maturely talking about the subject outside of this topic. Derailing threads isn't something I like to do.

No not really, if you don't contain the link content in future though I'll do it myself, just don't moan when I do.





 

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darkknightkryta on 23 November 2011

I'll stay on topic, I don't think Sony should release a console any time soon. The PS3 is selling well, it's out selling the Wii (Which I don't think anyone would have believed), and it'll most likely outsell the 360 this year (The 360 also selling impressive). Like, I'm sure Sony and MS can let the Wii U be on the market for a year or two with very little consequences. I mean I don't see 80 million Wii owners only owning a Wii, and I don't see said 80 million Wii owners buying a more expensive console to play games that are already available for current consoles. After a year or two, MS and Sony can release beasts of a console and the Wii U games will "look" dated and Nintendo will be back at square one. Like late 2013/early 2014 is when I believe Microsoft and Sony should launch. Which will most likely be 2013 MS and 2014 Sony.



enditall727 on 23 November 2011

all this PS4 talk just came booming in after i created my thread about the PS4 in the next generation ;)

it seems as if everything is happening EXACTLY as i said it would :) but it's still a bit too early

Microsoft would be smart to rush the NexBox into a 2012 launch and I hope we don't see anything remotely on par or worse than the RROD if they do rush into a 2012 launch though..



Solid-Stark on 23 November 2011

Good read imo. Looks like Sony wont allow a year head start for M$ this time. Therefore, imo, PS4 will come about 6 months after NextBox in 2013(Spring/Summer/Fall?)



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Joelcool7 on 23 November 2011
Seece said:
Joelcool7 said:
Seece said:
 

I'm just asking you to be considerate to other people, at the least you could at least post the content in the next post.

 


No not really, if you don't contain the link content in future though I'll do it myself, just don't moan when I do.



Look Seece enough with this talk. You don't post the link content in your threads either. i just looked over a half dozen of your threads and most of them have a single sentence maybe a little more followed by the link to the story. How is that any different then what I have done I still provide the source just like you do, I just provide more content instead of a sentence or two.

You don't post the original article all the time either. I see sometimes you post the article but often you just give a link. No different then me providing the link via the Source at the bottom of most threads.

Also me not providing a link is not manditory. I actually have sources outside of the media I used to create threads based on what my sources said what I heard from industry insiders and such. But people were getting upset they wanted sources, I gave names of some sources like when I conducted interviews personally. But people wanted a media source.

As such I have held back on a lot of news and topics to wait for the other media networks to catch up. Now rather then just talking with sources and following their tweets and stuff. Now I have to follow IGN and all the networks so that I get the news from a source people want rather then from an actual source.

That is taking users into consideration. When I worked for the paper and different sites I didn't have to give media sources often. I would simply give the name of my source if he wanted his name revealed or say "A Nintendo Canada employee recently told me" etc...etc... But on VGChartz I am not a writer and I had to adapt for the sake of users to provide media sources.

Sort of sucks, yah the media does often beat me to some stories. But I have to wait for the media to report other stories before posting. In doing so often I get beaten to stories I would have given earlier.

The only thing I do that is wrong, Is I still write and act like a journalist even though I am not employed at the moment. Its hard to try and not act like a journalist. I love to write, I'm not trying to come off as high and mighty or arrogant just that I still write and act like a journalist.



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NightDragon83 on 23 November 2011

Well it's obviously undesirable of them to launch at any point later than their competition, much less a year later. Problem for them is that for the 2nd generation in a row they will not be first to market with a new console, and could potentially launch last all by themselves this time around instead of alongside a Ninty or M$ console.

It's going to be tough for Sony to launch the PS4 before the end of 2013... they've only really just begun to be profitable with the PS3, they're launching Vita next year at a big cost to them with no real guarantees of it being a huge success yet, and they've become increasingly reliant on AAA 1st and 2nd party games carrying their systems over the past gen, as the third party exclusives they enjoyed during the PS1 and 2 eras have dried up, so it's going to be tough assembling a killer launch lineup by 2013 for their next console as well.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

Mr Puggsly on 23 November 2011
brendude13 said:
Smart thinking, nice to see SONY have learned their lesson.

The lesson learned is not launching a ridiculously high priced console.

Now they can't release a console late because they allowed their competition to thrive.

 

 



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blkfish92 on 23 November 2011
NiKKoM said:
I'm with Seece on this one! You're just trying to hard Joelcool, take a break.. you are at a point where people are clicking on your threads and think.. "damn it's from Joelcool, I'm skipping this one"


That's actually what I think!



           

S.T.A.G.E. on 23 November 2011

If Sony launches within a good window with good exclusives, proper pricing and cross chat in their online next gen Microsoft is kinda screwed. Especially with the online being free that goes double.



selnor on 23 November 2011

Nice op.

I think this is pretty damning. It almost feels like Sony is expecting Nextbox next year. Now M$ have more reason to release in 2012 and drive the knife home. :)