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sethnintendo on 23 November 2011
ironmanDX said:
d21lewis said:
I guess they'll do the Wii next week...


Why bother, it's on its way out. I'd rather newer info o the Wii U.


I'd rather not get my info from IGN ever.  I think I am about to have to get a Nintendo Power subscription again.



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MARCUSDJACKSON on 23 November 2011
Michael-5 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Michael-5 said:
LOL how to make a flash e-card....

Like I said 360 sales are greater then PS3's in the combined EMEAA/Americas annually. 360 is a very successful console. PS3 might overtake 360 in terms of total sales, but no faster then sales in Japan accumulate, and I honestly feel the Japanese region sales will die off sooner then the rest of the world. If they die off before PS3 overtakes 360, or just become marginal, I don't think PS3 will ever overtake 360.

Even if it does, who cares. X-Box 1 overtook Gamecube at the end of that gen, but I still look back and think Nintendo and MS had similar sales that gen, and PS3 crushed them. and it was bigger. PS3 was like a fatty in comparison lol. Wii is crushing this time, and 360/PS3 are doing about on par.

now the highlighted par in the first paragraph we've debated before and happily disagree but the second paragraph i completely agree with.

360 was the first console this gen to sale 10m ww., and what i rally hate about the authors argument is that it doesn't mention how even with a 1 yr. head start the 360 couldn't hold off the Wii. it was a surprise to many and what the PS3 has done is a surprise to many, but the real problem i have with the one yr. head start is that if it really mattered PS3 would have out sold 360 like the Wii did, so the one yr. head start is a BS argument that shouldn't even be mentioned in a conversation about sales.

fanboys spinning the numbers. it didn't happen so there's no way to know if PS3 would have out sold 360 in a time where there was an aligned launch.

No we didn't. 360 sells better then PS3 in the combined EMEAA/Americas region almost every week, and for the annual total, it does. For a quick reference 360 sold 13.4 million units in the combined Americas/EMEAA region in 2010, and PS3 sold 560k less units at 12.84 million. (Wii sold 15.98 units, so 360 could top Nintendo off this year). M5 you have a bad memory.

Japan sales are what kept PS3 sales above 360 sales last year. So 360 is a very successful console. still you have a bad memory.

For 2011 sales in combined EMEAA/Americas are 8.4 million for PS3, 7.95 million units for 360, and 6.75 for the Wii. However it's unlikely it will end this way because 360 and Wii tend to have stronger holidays then PS3. we've done this already hadn't. realized PS3 was doing so good, but history repeats its self.

You bolded so much, but only replied to the one aspect. that was the point. i like to try and stay on topic. well in the beginig anyway lol.

Who knows what could have happened if PS3 launched in 2005. I don't think it would have helped Sony because in 2006, the PS3 was a $600 machine, so it may have been more expensive in 2005, and I do agree with the author that many early PS3 supporters bought a PS3 because it was a cheap blue-ray player. Most PS3 gamers I know who are 30 plus got the PS3 for this reason and got maybe about 3-4 games lifetime. thats the only thing i agree with the author on

The PS3 was barely ready to be launched in 2006, a launch in 2005 may have actually hurt the PS3 more then it helped. thats my point and the other reason i hate the aligned luanch theory.

On the same note, a launch in 2006 for 360 could have helped. Launching the console so early gave rise to a substantial fail rate, and gave the console a bad image. It was this bad image that you could argue helped early PS3 sales. likely

However non of this did happen, it's all speculation. You can't argue that PS3 would have sold better if it launched at the same time as 360 regardless if it's a 2005 or 2006 launch. thats my point

The only thing you can get from an article like this is that 360 is successful, and it's going to hold strong in the next coming years. PS3 is also very strong.... lilekly

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XanderZane on 23 November 2011

Not sure why anyone even cares whether the PS3 catches the XBox 360 or not. The Wii already won this generation. There are no medals or rewards for coming in 2nd or 3rd. Sure the PS3 was going to catch up. It sells over 7 million in Japan, while the XBox 360 sells one million. There is your difference. Even though the 360 gained some decent market shares in Japan, it no where near enough to seriously compete in that market yet. If you don't include Japan It's pretty much even year for year. That's impressive on Microsoft part consider what the PS2 did to the XBox and Gamecube last generation. The Playstation is no longer the leader of console gaming. Like the NES & Genesis & SNES, it had it's run.



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brendude13 on 23 November 2011

This is even worse than that other thread.

...Seriously IGN? They are (I think) the biggest gaming news website on the internet, they need to start acting like it.



Michael-5 on 23 November 2011
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Michael-5 said:

No we didn't. 360 sells better then PS3 in the combined EMEAA/Americas region almost every week, and for the annual total, it does. For a quick reference 360 sold 13.4 million units in the combined Americas/EMEAA region in 2010, and PS3 sold 560k less units at 12.84 million. (Wii sold 15.98 units, so 360 could top Nintendo off this year). M5 you have a bad memory.

Japan sales are what kept PS3 sales above 360 sales last year. So 360 is a very successful console. still you have a bad memory.

For 2011 sales in combined EMEAA/Americas are 8.4 million for PS3, 7.95 million units for 360, and 6.75 for the Wii. However it's unlikely it will end this way because 360 and Wii tend to have stronger holidays then PS3. we've done this already hadn't. realized PS3 was doing so good, but history repeats its self.

You bolded so much, but only replied to the one aspect. that was the point. i like to try and stay on topic. well in the beginig anyway lol.

Who knows what could have happened if PS3 launched in 2005. I don't think it would have helped Sony because in 2006, the PS3 was a $600 machine, so it may have been more expensive in 2005, and I do agree with the author that many early PS3 supporters bought a PS3 because it was a cheap blue-ray player. Most PS3 gamers I know who are 30 plus got the PS3 for this reason and got maybe about 3-4 games lifetime. thats the only thing i agree with the author on

The PS3 was barely ready to be launched in 2006, a launch in 2005 may have actually hurt the PS3 more then it helped. thats my point and the other reason i hate the aligned luanch theory.

On the same note, a launch in 2006 for 360 could have helped. Launching the console so early gave rise to a substantial fail rate, and gave the console a bad image. It was this bad image that you could argue helped early PS3 sales. likely

However non of this did happen, it's all speculation. You can't argue that PS3 would have sold better if it launched at the same time as 360 regardless if it's a 2005 or 2006 launch. thats my point

The only thing you can get from an article like this is that 360 is successful, and it's going to hold strong in the next coming years. PS3 is also very strong.... lilekly

that's it. if you say so. i'm just here for the pie lol.



No I think you assumed I agreed with you. I have a good memory, and I never agreed. 360 is more popular in the combined Americas and EMEAA region.

Everything else you agree with me on, and what pie? I want cyber pie....give me cyber pie! Cyber apple pie please....man I haven't had pie in years..



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dr3b on 23 November 2011

Article in short, PS3 launching a year later and a $600 cost them the lead, if they had launched first and at $400 they would've been further ahead than the 360 is now.

Regardless, if the trend of the past couple years continues, it will eventually pull ahead but the PS3 isn't going to outsell the 360 like the PS2 did the XBOX and that in a big part is down to a bad move by Sony.



MARCUSDJACKSON on 23 November 2011
Michael-5 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Michael-5 said:
 

No we didn't. 360 sells better then PS3 in the combined EMEAA/Americas region almost every week, and for the annual total, it does. For a quick reference 360 sold 13.4 million units in the combined Americas/EMEAA region in 2010, and PS3 sold 560k less units at 12.84 million. (Wii sold 15.98 units, so 360 could top Nintendo off this year). M5 you have a bad memory.

Japan sales are what kept PS3 sales above 360 sales last year. So 360 is a very successful console. still you have a bad memory.

For 2011 sales in combined EMEAA/Americas are 8.4 million for PS3, 7.95 million units for 360, and 6.75 for the Wii. However it's unlikely it will end this way because 360 and Wii tend to have stronger holidays then PS3. we've done this already hadn't. realized PS3 was doing so good, but history repeats its self.

You bolded so much, but only replied to the one aspect. that was the point. i like to try and stay on topic. well in the beginig anyway lol.

Who knows what could have happened if PS3 launched in 2005. I don't think it would have helped Sony because in 2006, the PS3 was a $600 machine, so it may have been more expensive in 2005, and I do agree with the author that many early PS3 supporters bought a PS3 because it was a cheap blue-ray player. Most PS3 gamers I know who are 30 plus got the PS3 for this reason and got maybe about 3-4 games lifetime. thats the only thing i agree with the author on

The PS3 was barely ready to be launched in 2006, a launch in 2005 may have actually hurt the PS3 more then it helped. thats my point and the other reason i hate the aligned luanch theory.

On the same note, a launch in 2006 for 360 could have helped. Launching the console so early gave rise to a substantial fail rate, and gave the console a bad image. It was this bad image that you could argue helped early PS3 sales. likely

However non of this did happen, it's all speculation. You can't argue that PS3 would have sold better if it launched at the same time as 360 regardless if it's a 2005 or 2006 launch. thats my point

The only thing you can get from an article like this is that 360 is successful, and it's going to hold strong in the next coming years. PS3 is also very strong.... lilekly

that's it. if you say so. i'm just here for the pie lol.



No I think you assumed I agreed with you. I have a good memory, and I never agreed. 360 is more popular in the combined Americas and EMEAA region. M5 i did not say you agreed with me, i said we agreed to disagree.

Everything else you agree with me on, and what pie? I want cyber pie....give me cyber pie! Cyber apple pie please....man I haven't had pie in years.. finaly you show some humor lol.





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Michael-5 on 24 November 2011
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Michael-5 said:

No I think you assumed I agreed with you. I have a good memory, and I never agreed. 360 is more popular in the combined Americas and EMEAA region. M5 i did not say you agreed with me, i said we agreed to disagree.

Everything else you agree with me on, and what pie? I want cyber pie....give me cyber pie! Cyber apple pie please....man I haven't had pie in years.. finaly you show some humor lol.



Oh well, I raised the point not againts you to comment then. I know 360 is more popular in EMEAA/Americas combined, and well that just shows that the 360 is a successful system.



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ironmanDX on 24 November 2011
XanderZane said:
Not sure why anyone even cares whether the PS3 catches the XBox 360 or not. The Wii already won this generation. There are no medals or rewards for coming in 2nd or 3rd. Sure the PS3 was going to catch up. It sells over 7 million in Japan, while the XBox 360 sells one million. There is your difference. Even though the 360 gained some decent market shares in Japan, it no where near enough to seriously compete in that market yet. If you don't include Japan It's pretty much even year for year. That's impressive on Microsoft part consider what the PS2 did to the XBox and Gamecube last generation. The Playstation is no longer the leader of console gaming. Like the NES & Genesis & SNES, it had it's run.


This. Well said Xander.



usrevenge on 24 November 2011

the only reason PS3 might outsell 360 is because people who already own a 360 want to try the PS3 exclusives and in such a long console lifespan they have the money to do so.
conversly some Europeans hate america and refuse to buy a 360, or basically are sony fanboys
Japan is about the same as Europe, with almost no sales it gives sony a huge advantage, it has a huge gaming market that refuses to purchase a 360 no matter what happens.

will PS3 outsell 360? maybe
in america? no, and if it does the game per owner ratio will be very very low
i for one, bought the PS3, expected great things, expected uncharted 2 to be one of the best games ever, it was meh
Mag was fun, but the main game mode only had 3 maps.... where is the blu ray size o awsome?
metal gear solid 4 is great
resistance 1 and 2 were terrible..... how they got good reviews is beyond me.
these big titles are WORSE then 3rd party titles i'd *regretfully* have to say the black ops and MW3 are better then resistance 1 and 2, gears blows away uncharted and i can live without mag and MGS4.