If LBP was just the single player game with no online and no creation system, the scores would've been horrid for it (or at least I think so). The mechanics of the platforming in LBP just didn't feel right.

I think that's why the scores for Mario games are high. The mechanics for the platforming is just done so right that it's easy to play, and it's actually very fun. It's one of those games where you can just pick it up to play it and have fun. The level designs are almost always good as well and the soundtracks for Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 have been phenomonal. I've only played a little bit of Galaxy 2, but Galaxy stands as my favorite 3D Mario game. I've played A LOT of platformers and Mario games have always been up there as some of the best.

Thats a really awful point, GT5 is a racing simulator game obviously all you can is drive, same with FIFA all you can do is play football, you cant do anything else with them. Marios a platformer, alot can be done with platformers. LBP was a platformer and had all that stuff, Jak and Daxter was a platformer and that had a story and voice acting.

Jumping is jumping, it an only be so good. A game that has better jumping that another one does not merit it getting a 97.

Really now, thats exactly what the other guy just said. Like i said theres only so much you can do with a FIFA or GT game, even if thats all you do they dont get scores of 97 do they.

Course it wouldve been horrid, but it does have those things, you could never even begin to play all the levels in the game. Its like endless DLC. Everything you just said other games have but they dont get a 97.

Uncharted 2 had a great level design, its platforming was fun, its music wasnt as good as Marios but it unlike Mario had voice acting, it was funny, the characters are all likable, you do more than just climb things, it had a story, it had online, it had fantastic graphics, it won a ton of GOTY awards, is one of the highest rated games this gen.

And it still doesnt have a score like Galaxy.

If you took Galaxy exactly as it is, then swapped out the Mario characters for new original characters and it was made by Namco, it would never under any circumstances get a 97 or anywhere close to it.

You dont have to grovel for attention man, if it makes you happy i will go back and find it.

Its level designs are good but they are nothing special, theres better designed user created levels on Little Big Planet. How can they not have any lasting appeal, they have online at least you can keep going back to that, with LBP there will always be something new each time you go back on and play it.

I bought Galaxy 2 and played it for an hour when i had it Xmas and still havent bothered to go back and play it again because i can play better games on the PS3.

I've played most of the better ones. They are good considering what amateurs can do within the restrictive confines of what LBP can do, but to suggest they are better designed than some of Nintendo's best ever levels, where the developers had the freedom to do whatever the hell they wanted, and then throw away that idea and start all over again on the next level? Even the bloke in your avatar wouldn't say something that insane...

Because one group is taking their stance from a fallacious perspective. Our Joker friend is asserting that these Nintendo games are categorically inferior or that the HD games are categorically superior, which is false. Each game exists in a vacuum when its merit is judged, and therefore no factors of categorical superiority or inferiority can exist, and the opposing argument is false. The Nintendo side is not contending that Nintendo games are categorically superior, just that they tend to be superior on the whole, much like how one could say that the New York Yankees are superior to the Pittsburgh Pirates, which for the last 20 years has been true and tends to be true, but is not categorically true (that is, by virtue of being Yankees they are inherently superior to the Pirates)

Goddamn, I gotta prove read my shit. Yeah, I meant batman. I mean I can understand if a game is ported between consoles but on a simultaneous release, I really don't think it should matter. It kinda puts down one over the other, just a little. Also, there are a lot more reviews for the 360 than the PS3, more than twice that amount. Is it safe to assume most critics are American (where 360 reigns supreme) or maybe the 360 is more accessible?

Xenoblade tides with Uncharted 3! also I see skyward sword selling over 3.5M before 2012.