Of course he has a basis for his comments because I do not hide my disdain for the far right. His reply ignored all my points and spinned the topic into a new direction.

Just so you know I do not join many political threads because guys like HS are polar opposites of me and I get angry. I come here mostly to have fun and politics are big and heated now and I do not intend to bring venom into it much. I would probably quickly get banned.

Now I wait for HS response because he is the one that made the original statement that set this off.

The Tea Party also tended to be far more centralized and organized (which is to say, it had some organization at all, unlike OWS, which leads to the abuses committed by Occupy)

This is mob action, this is

Which kinda shows why the whole "New better government" plan a lot of the OWS movements want just doesn't work.

Leaderless societies often end up with mob rule, mob action... and worst of all... leaders.

Because there will always be someone who curries more favor then others either through fame, charisma, connections or outright buying people off.

Really i'd argue factions would form fairly quickly and you'd end up with defacto parties pretty quickly.

At best it'd end up like one branch of communism where essentially labor unions fought each other for a "fair" share of the pie(i forget the name of it.) or at worst Corporatism.  (Not counting say, one group like a Police union or a rich corporation gaining control by force

The former "sounds" preferable to current systems, until you realize that one or two labor unions who end up having their finger on "the button" would get exobrantly powerful, divert the vast majority of resources there way... and essentially would find a way to make themselves the upperclass.  Something like the people who control the nations power, or aforementioned military or whatever.

So your arguement boils down to "Do what I say and not what I do."

That's quite a bit of intellectual dishonesty you've got going there... and it's unabashed no less.

You are talking about statements from months ago for one. Secondly, every human is is subject to generalizations it is part of are pschy that helps us survive and make judgements about people and events. Still it can be taken to far and I got what your previous statement was supposed to convey. The topic here is supposed to be the riots and the current political climate. Perhaps I made many statements like that in the past, but I have not done so here. It is never an order, rather it is pointing out ideas to show the fallicy in his original statement.

The feed isn't working for me. Did you have to wait a while for it to pop up? All I see in the player is a gray screen.

The riot happened last night.

So then you retract those previous statements calling the tea party racist exretmists?

Otherwise, his statements which we've established as having more of a factual basis then yours would be covered by your own defense.

Or conversly option 3 of intellectual dishonesty still remains which would also invalidate your arguement.

As for the generalizations comment, it sounds like you've taken a sociology of Race and Gender class and somewhat missed the main point.  Which is that because people are prone to generalizations, people should take extra care when evaluating groups on more then the shallowest of levels. 

Espiecally when, said generalizations are largely baseless like yours was.

Most generalizations people make actually tend to be based on actions that tend to give said generalizations glimmer of "truth".

For example the "Jews are greedy" stereotype actually came about because there was a disproportinate amount of Jewish people in "money handling" buisnesses, and later in buisnesses like sewing that were booming at the right time.  Of course this wasn't because of inherent jewish greediness but the fact that they were essentially forced into these fields before baking and sewing became big financial powerhouses.

Seeing the basis of such a generalization being a forced correlation with no causation, it's one that clearly should be dropped.

Small world, i was born in a Youngstown hospital and grew up in Lawrence County over the border

Doh!  I should really check the time stamps more often when I come into threads.