Rioting in Oakland - Live Stream. Crap is Hitting Fan!

[Kasz216]

Mr Khan said:

Kasz216 said:

chocoloco said:

HappySqurriel said:

chocoloco said:
@ Squrril

Also you are generalizing an entire protest and thousands of people based on the actions of a few. Never a good thing to do because it leads to hate and closed mindedness.

Right ... Because the hard-left is known for peaceful protests and anti-capitalist, communist and anarchist protests never devolve into rioting

Nice to see you fail to see my point again. We are talking about one riot in one very violent city and you want to go and generalize that action to the whole movement. Closed minded thinking period.
On top of it, you bend my statements to your thinking trying to say I am just a liberal that is trying to say they never are violent. Wrong I am saying you cannot you use one example to create truths about people. That leads to things like racism, sexism and agism. 

Although it's only the second case of rioting.  It's not like it's the only case of violence in the OWS movement.

There are countless charges of assualt, rape, theft and much more.

I could be wrong here, but I could of swore you were one of the people who considered the teaparty to be extremists and racists despite no actual violence or racism. 

I would suggest that there is far more of a basis for HS's comments then the above.

The Tea Party also tended to be far more centralized and organized (which is to say, it had some organization at all, unlike OWS, which leads to the abuses committed by Occupy)

This is mob action, this is

Which kinda shows why the whole "New better government" plan a lot of the OWS movements want just doesn't work.

Leaderless societies often end up with mob rule, mob action... and worst of all... leaders.

Because there will always be someone who curries more favor then others either through fame, charisma, connections or outright buying people off.

Really i'd argue factions would form fairly quickly and you'd end up with defacto parties pretty quickly.

At best it'd end up like one branch of communism where essentially labor unions fought each other for a "fair" share of the pie(i forget the name of it.) or at worst Corporatism.  (Not counting say, one group like a Police union or a rich corporation gaining control by force

The former "sounds" preferable to current systems, until you realize that one or two labor unions who end up having their finger on "the button" would get exobrantly powerful, divert the vast majority of resources there way... and essentially would find a way to make themselves the upperclass.  Something like the people who control the nations power, or aforementioned military or whatever.