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I agree with the first 4, but not with the last 3



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Vetteman94 said:
I agree with the first 4, but not with the last 3


I think it's pretty safe to say that DVD players and DVD movies aren't really going to be sold new in 2020.  You'll likely only be able to find them in used movie places like Movie Trading Company with their VHS section.  By 2020 we'll already be moving beyond BluRay.

In the same sense read/writeable CD's and DVD's will also fall out of popularity.  You might still be able to buy them like you can buy a 3.5" floppy disk today (you can actually!) but the fact they're already so inconvenient means they'll be phased out quickly.  Think about the last time you wrote a CD/DVD-- did it take a long time (compared to, say, a USB drive) and where you annoyed that you couldn't change what you had written unless you bought more expensive re-writeable CD's?  Writeable CD's only became as popular as they did because they had 500x the storage of a 3.5" floppy, never because they were easy to use.

And as for consoles, I kind of agree.  I don't think there will be a dedicated gaming console but it will turn into more of a dedicated media device that plays games among other things.  Looking at the 360 and PS3, they're already moving away from being a dedicated gaming device.  They're a gaming device first still, but by 2020 that could easiyl change,



Assuming he is talking world wide, I don't believe his prognosis on crap phones. Cheap phones will continue to be sold, but beyond the dirt cheap level, you will get low level Android smartphones, that I can believe, but there will still be a market for traditional cheap phones for some time to come

As for consoles, well just no. The idea that TV's with games consoles in them replacing actual consoles is just ridiculous, it just won't work. I am more concerned about tablets and phones when paired with HDMI cables and proper controllers, but I see a PS5 at the least



twesterm said:
Vetteman94 said:
I agree with the first 4, but not with the last 3


I think it's pretty safe to say that DVD players and DVD movies aren't really going to be sold new in 2020.  You'll likely only be able to find them in used movie places like Movie Trading Company with their VHS section.  By 2020 we'll already be moving beyond BluRay.

In the same sense read/writeable CD's and DVD's will also fall out of popularity.  You might still be able to buy them like you can buy a 3.5" floppy disk today (you can actually!) but the fact they're already so inconvenient means they'll be phased out quickly.  Think about the last time you wrote a CD/DVD-- did it take a long time (compared to, say, a USB drive) and where you annoyed that you couldn't change what you had written unless you bought more expensive re-writeable CD's?  Writeable CD's only became as popular as they did because they had 500x the storage of a 3.5" floppy, never because they were easy to use.

And as for consoles, I kind of agree.  I don't think there will be a dedicated gaming console but it will turn into more of a dedicated media device that plays games among other things.  Looking at the 360 and PS3, they're already moving away from being a dedicated gaming device.  They're a gaming device first still, but by 2020 that could easiyl change,

DVD's and their players yes but he was lumping them together with Blu-ray which is where I disagree.  I think Blu-ray will be around for awhile

And I actually burn CDs and DVDs all the time.  And time wise it wasnt horrible.  



I don't think any of that is too far-fetched.

1) GPS systems are already being replaced with built-in car systems that have wireless and probably Android or some other base OS ... or people's smartphones. So this one is already self-evident.

2) e-readers are still popular for those who like to read as its easier on the eyes than tablets. however, as more tablets reduce in size and technology improves, what you'll see is a tablet that can present a e-ink type of display as well as normal tablet display. Making stand-alone e-readers a thing of the past. Amazon's latest kinda shows this transition of e-reader simply morphing into a tablet.

3) smart phones are reducing in price and variety at an lighting pace. Feature phones will surely die to cheap limited smartphones as time moves on. Its already harder to buy decent feature phones as they are becoming less and less of the carriers offered items.

4) low-end digital cameras makes no sense really. There will always be a "low-end" device of any market. However, if they mean that they will be replaced by phones in general... well yes that makes sense as I have no intention of every buying a stand-alone camera due to the capabilities of phones and I'm sure most users are the same. However, people who will want a specific use device for best possible shots will still buy a camera only and there will always be a low-end camera.

5)DVD players... duh.

6) Cd/DVD/Blurays/etc... I don't know about this in 10 years. Blurays may still be around however, they will definitely be on their way out as digital delivery and cloud storage replaces current standards.

7) Game consoles... This is different in many cases as manufacturers will still want to capitalize on a hardware/software relationship. So I dont' see Nintendo or Sony stopping the production of some sort of hardware device that they license game publication for in the next 10 years. It would take a complete stand of 3rd parties to push them out of this business model and I am not sure that will happen quite yet. Maybe as it is evidenced by Nintendo's push with 3DS and WiiU to be more similar in core functionality to others than different as in the Wii/DS. (i.e. the base core exists across all with a few extras)



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PS3 and 360 are already set top box devices. Slap a decent browser in the PS3 and you've got all the entertainment device you really need. I do think Sony should put an Android OS inside PS4. Android being open source, Sony boffins can take ICS (or the next one) and customise (and secure) it for the PS4. That way you can then have Android tablet and PS4 interactivity. MS is doing it with Windows devices and XBL. Apple has all its HW integrated. As long as Sony doesn't limit tablet integration to Sony tablets then Android device integration will be a great selling point.

Google and Sony really should be tech buddies because they have a lot of common enemies, and really nothing in the way of direct comptetiton between them. Except now that Google owns Motorola Mobility (or soon) they will be directly competing in smartphones, but there's plenty of room in that market for them not to step on each other's toes.



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Why would I buy another television just to play games? Are they going to have like 5 different models with various sizes? Also conoles are already multimedia machines. I use my ps3 to play games, listen to music, watch videos with netflix and dvds/blurays. With a better web browser and maybe cable networking connectivity, it could be a must have machine.



Standalone GPS Systems (Probably)

E-Readers (subjective): It could be viewed that as e-book readers add the functions that are now in tablets the tablet will disappear

Simple Cellphones (Maybe): I know as many people who are thinking of dropping their smartphone and picking up a simple cellphone because they don't need a smartphone and a tablet as I know people who are thinking of dropping their simple phone for a smartphone.

Low End Digital Camera's (Subjective): While a simple point and shoot will (probably) disappear, low end SLRs and SLR-like cameras will likely take their position within the market

DVD Players (probably)

Recordable media (probably)

Consoles (unlikely): a departure from conventional thinking (for example the Wii) can only really be made successful by a console manufacturer



The loss of consoles, I doubt it. Then again people back in the day were probably amazing at the almighty beta max and then came the mighty VHS player.



           

I disagreee with the smart tv console bit. If anything, games will all be streamed like onlive or digitally stored on a media device.



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