Raze said:
badgenome said:
Raze said:
That's where we differentiate, I suppose. You seem to think that violence begins with the protesters, I see it as beginning with the police. Of course, to be entirely honest, I see protesting as a giant waste of time, and believe that if they want the CEOs attention, they'll follow them to their house and get their address and post it online for the world to know. Because you never know what maniac will go vigilante and hunt the greedy bastard down. Either way, it'll seriously diminish the CEOs quality of life, making them quicker to react and more willing to listen. >=)
I support the movement and anger of the OWS protest, but this hippie/peace-loving crap will accomplish nothing.
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Well then, take heart, little fella. Doug Schoen polled some OWS protesters and found that one-third of them are as in favor of using violence as you are.
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=D Little fella? I was born in the 70s and I'm over 6'2
Let me clarify, I'm saying that peaceful protests accomplish nothing, especially when you're yelling at a bunch of mostly-soundproofed buildings.
@Kas - Interesting article, my solution is a complete revamp of the US gov't. That's the REAL source. Without the regulations from long ago in place, the big businessmen have nothing keeping them in line. Between the worthless oil wars, massive bailouts, freely giving billions in international aid, protecting bigwigs from prosecution, I feel justified in saying that the US government has failed the people, and that it's time to start anew.
I'm not calling for people to go start killing cops or CEOs, I'm calling for people to do something significant, instead of meditating in a park.
Between active , reserved and retired military, government milita forces and local police throughout the US, the combined amount equals to less than 1% of the US population. The US unemployment rate is 9% of the population. If HALF of the unemployed revolted, all of the defensive forces would be outnumbered by over 4 to 1. Combine that with the concept that a good portion of the military - active, reserved and retired, would not side with the governing powers in case of a revolution or civil war.
What I'm saying is - be prepared. I can see the fuse is lit, doesn't take a clairvoyant to see that.
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1) You said you're not caling for people to start killing cops or CEO's.... then your very next sentence is about Killing cops and CEOS.
2) Most of the Occupy Wallstreet movement is for international Aid. Additionally, they're against things like the new natural gas drilling that will bring tons of jobs becuase it's not alternative energy... so half your reasons don't mesh with the movement.
3) Thirdly, there were no Oil Wars. Or if they were oil wars they sure were shitty ones, since before the invasion of Iraq most of the oil produced their went to Europe in the corrupt oil (and kickbacks to Un officials) for food (and banned items) program.
Now the majority of Iraq Oil and newly discovered natural resoruces goes to China. Afghanistan oil production isn't really getting anywhere.
4) Protecting Bigwigs from prosecution... if you mean Wallstreet, then no, they aren't. Those who actually were guilty of crimes were punished, "Wallstreet criminals" is really nothing but a false labeling.
If you mean certain officials that have been accused of warcrimes. I don't see how this hurts the average person.
5) There is no system of government free from lobbyist involvement, actually as far as political corruption goes we're very low on the scale because we have relativly small government compaired to most of the world.
Most of the shit that's "corruption" over here isn't even considered so in other countries.
