On top of that I would just like to add that even people who enjoy good storytelling in game would disagree on what is a good story and what methods are best for creating a good story ...

An example of this is the move 300, an Amazingly stylish movie with the depth of a tea-spoon; to some people the style of the movie more than makes up for the lack of depth, while others see it as a wasted opportunity to do something meaningful.

Then there are people like me who HATE voice acting in games ... It is typically done poorly, and is amazingly repetative which discourages people from exploring the depth of the world they're put in (if you click on several townsfolk and they all say the same line you will stop clicking on townsfolk.)

Yeah, except with the doctor, there was even less story. Actually, bio-chemist would work since he's throwing pills at the little germs, lol.

So now it's only the past few years that should be looked at, not Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario World, and Super Mario 64 (Although in the third one, you first have to save kings, and then you learn about Princess Peach being kidnapped).

Kratos doesn't get ticked off for no apparent reason: In the first one, Kratos blames Ares for slaughtering his village and wife and kid. In the second one, Zeus kills Kratos while he is a mortal and sends him to Hades. Maybe the revenge aspect is getting too jaded for you, but I, like Barlog, think that Princess being kidnapped once again by Bowser has been done since 1985!

And for everyone else, this is his opnion and you guys shouldn't nitpick over what caught your retinas. Even the folks at Screwattack and Gametrailers sung the same tune regarding the story of Mario games, but they, along with Barlog, don't complain absolutely nothing in regards to the gameplay because, all in all, that's what really matters.

I really don't have any issues AGAINST his opinion, but more in terms of his reasoning.

With something like this, I next expect him to start criticizing Wii sports for having such simplistic graphics.

Or lack of story? We want to know why your Mii wants to become a Pro at Bowling, and the backstory to him being a right handed bowler.

"Kratos doesn't get ticked off for no apparent reason: In the first one, Kratos blames Ares for slaughtering his village and wife and kid. In the second one, Zeus kills Kratos while he is a mortal and sends him to Hades. Maybe the revenge aspect is getting too jaded for you, but I, like Barlog, think that Princess being kidnapped once again by Bowser has been done since 1985"

If I may point you to the Grecian mythological tales of Hercules and Orpheus, you will see exactly the same or similar things happen to them as happen to Kratos. Seriously, it's like he's playing Mad Libs with a Mythology textbook. You'll find that revenge tales are actually much more ancient than the modern fairy tales Super Mario is based on (Alice in Wonderland, The Little Prince.) In fact the first story ever written (Gilgamesh) was full of doubt and abuse by the gods and a revenge driven hero. Perhaps the ones jaded with sturm, angst, and revenge are the more older, wiser and well read.

why defend galaxy? yes, of course it's about gameplay, not story. but some people do want more storyline when they play a game, and he happens to be one of those people.

besides, if galaxy does has a good storyline to it, it'll have an average score of like 99 instead of the 97 currently.

lots of people can enjoy galaxy 100% without a story. but there are some who say only enjoys it 90%. that's still really good--we're not all clones, after all.

Pro tip: If you care more about SMG's story than its gameplay, you should be reading books, not playing games. Edit: Sorry, Crazymann, a negative snuck into my statement. Didn't make much sense, did it? :)

Bahaha thats so true. Mario probably isnt "epic" enough for him.

On another tangent. I think people need to learn to differentiate between 'story' and 'story telling'.

Mario has very little story telling. Few cutscenes, boring dialouge and 2-dimensional characters. But Mario games are full of story. Every new imaginative idea is a story in itself. Every star has its own story and challenge that is unique and entertaining. How many times have you had to run around on fruit in space? Mario is full strange and new ideas.

 I just think its injust to describe SMG story as vapid. I mean you could call it strange or illogical or silly, but NOT vapid. Mario's world is the opposite of vapid, it's colourful, imaginative and full of life. Mario game's popularity are centered on their consistancy in providing imaginative experiences that have depth of meaning.

 You can defend peoples right to have an oppinion, but not their right to misuse words. I can guarantee he didnt think overly about what he was saying.

Eh?  By my thoughts, the opposite would be true.  Could you elaborate?

Also, smellygoat, well said!  The difference between story and storytelling must be properly deliniated. 

Maybe it's because I'm more familiar with Mario having little story but I kinda feel like a Mario platformer with large amount of storytelling will no longer be Mario.

To be honest though, although I prefer some amounts of story for games and the like, I feel like it's being overemphasize. I absolutely hate, while playing game, for those cutscenes to constantly pop up... (KH2 story bored me, and I had no interest in DQVIII's). They could get better though if the cutscenes were shorter, and the rest of the stories tells in different way or hidden and blends with the game well.