Don't ask for other's opinion if you aren't going to accept them.

without israel there wouldnt even be a palestine.  you know, when other arab states decided they would rather have the land, including the palestinian state of jordan.   And quite frankly if there were daily massacres by the israelis they would have just killed them all off a long time ago because its simpler.  israel respects human rights and treats all of their citizens equally, unlike the terrorist palestinian governments, who have openly said there will be no jews allowed in any state of palestine(which encompasses the entire land of israel the west bank and gaza) wonder what their plans are for them?

Its not that i dont accept them, its just that I want to discuss the subject and express my opinion just as many others have done!

It seems to me that the Muslim world is willing to tolerate Israel's criminal behavior currently, so what would change if Israel made concessions? Israel would still be strong enough that no-one would want tangle with them, and so long as the concessions Israel made wouldn't leave the West Bank a crippled non-state riddled with Israeli military highways and restricted areas, the Israel-haters would lose a good deal of legitimacy, and this loss of legitimacy would extend to Hamas

Given its strength, Israel can afford to make all the land concessions it pleases and not have to worry one iota about security, and therefore it should make the concessions that are only fair and just for it to make.

Assuming this means, who's fault it is that peace talks aren't progressing.

In which case it's fairly clearly Palestine.

People keep looking at the Palestine papers the wrong way.

If Israel turned down that deal, it surely is bad on them....

however what does it say about Palestine that it's offering deals it can't even tell it's people about because even just offering such a deal would mean the negotiators would have to resign?

Fatah and ESPECIALLY Hamas, haven't prepared the Palestinian people at all for the situation they're in, pretending that they are an equal in negotiations.

Which generally seems to be the history of the Palestinian/Jewish conflict.

The Palestinians always want to play a stronger card then they have. Had they been reasonable from the start, Israel would of been extremely tiny and not worth mentioning in the state of world affairs.

Had Palestine looked at the Palestine papers and said "They're true!"  instead of "That never happened!" We'd probably have a Palestinian state based on Palestine's offer by the end of 2012.

Both parties are mostly rabbid, one of them happens to be a state. I condone the actions of neither.

Wonder what would happen if Israel just decided to stop negotating with Palestine and instead negotiated with Jordan and Egypt about giving them most of the land back that they were occupying back then at that time.

And how does it belong to them? is it because it used to be theirs according to religion?? ok, but does this give them an excuse to conquer it?? Lets say I used to live in a house and then I moved along and you came to rent it instead, does the fact that I used to live there before you give me an excuse to break in, physically vilate you and take the house? Because I really want to understand, when the jews were not in Israel were they taking a vacation just to come back to their "home" land again when it is finished?

I admire your enthusiasm, but I already know first hand that people choose not to give a shit about Palestinians.

Having lived there and experienced the harsh treatment innocent civilians go through on a daily basis just to be labeled a sub-human at the end of the day ... I learned to not even talk about this subject a long time ago.

Victims have become the villains. Words can only take people so far, but I challenge anyone to go spend a week in the Gaza Strip and then tell me who the real victims are.

Jordan i know wants nothing to do with the West Bank. They wouldn't take it back as a gift freely given.

Egypt... it depends on where they wind up in the swing of this political transition (which is far from over as recent riots have shown, that and the fact that the government really didn't change or open up at all)