Forums - Movies Discussion - The Simpsons May Get Canceled!!! ...

Tagged games:

Slimebeast said:
sapphi_snake said:
Slimebeast said:
sapphi_snake said:
Slimebeast said:
Player1x3 said:
Meh, the show really wnt off in the last 3 years...its all the ''political corectness''bullshit I say !! Its no fun when they cant (they can, they're just affraid to) insult any group of people at all anymore. The SImpsons would have away with so much more funnier stuff back in the 90's when American media still had some balls left to screw with any group of people other than Eastern Europeans and Christians

I know it's gotten worse but Simspons always was politically correct and never was bold. It's left wing satire written by liberals.

It's quite well made though and I used to enjoy it despite the propaganda and the pure non-political comedy in it was solid.

I take it you've never actually seen it before, no?

I watched every show from early to mid 90's and from 1996 and forward a couple of shows here and there. Simpsons has never been controversial, not even close. 

But you have a left wing perspective, so you might think that critizising capitalism or the weapon industry is bold.

I think you may live in an alternate reality, where the world is different from the world where The Simpsons was created. And criticizing 'capitalism or the weapons industry' is bold (unless you're a right winger with a distorted view of the world). There's also the fact that The Simpsons is a cartoon, and for a cartoon to be broadcasted during prime time, and for it to be aimed towards more mature individuals, dealing with actual issues (as opposed to having a cat and mouse chase each other), was quite controversial at the time.

Not sure about the USA to be honest but it definately wasn't controversial in Sweden. It was considered mild political satire. Clever but mild.

Don't get me wrong though, I always liked Simpsons.

Criticizing the weapon industry is not bold man, where did you get that from lol? If a cartoon made propaganda for war and money, that would have been bold!

Bold? That's not bold. Hollywood's been doing those ever since it came into existence.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

Around the Network

Stupid reason to end the series but it hasn't actually been good for well over 10 years anyways.

Every now and then I catch an episode and I really just have to wonder why that show is still running.



Well all you Simpson fans can be relieved the cast and crew negotiated a pay cut that will allow the show to continue to be produced for at least another season. Fact is the Simpsons crew is one of the highest paid cartoon development teams in the world, I guess if they are willing to take this steep pay cut they must realize the importance of Simpsons to their careers and livelihoods.

However I do have to wonder if Fox executives are taking pay cuts? I mean television shows on Fox and other channels are becoming more and more expensive to produce and less and less revenue is coming in. It used to be a show got 3-million views it would remain on the air for a season it was acceptable. But this season a show got 5-million views and was dropped after three episodes.

Its like all the banks that laid off tons of staff and accepted bail outs, yet their executives barely saw a cut in their pay checks while everyone else within the companies suffered. I like Nintendo's approach where the companies leadership actually takes responsibility for the poor sales and takes a pay cut alongside any other staff receiving the cut.

A company is supposed to be a team, the boss is no good without the team. Sure the boss is important and deserves higher pay but why should the whole team take a pay cut while the executives remain unaffected. I mean really is it the teams fault that sales are winding down or bad business decisions were made by those in leadership? No, so why should the executives be protected at the cost of the developers who actually make the products?



-JC7

"In God We Trust - In Games We Play " - Joel Reimer

 

Troy McClure lied to me! He said until the show becomes unprofitable... it's still profitable.



Show is terrible, lets hope it goes and frees up a lot of revenue for better shows.



Around the Network
sapphi_snake said:
Slimebeast said:
sapphi_snake said:
Slimebeast said:
sapphi_snake said:
Slimebeast said:
Player1x3 said:
Meh, the show really wnt off in the last 3 years...its all the ''political corectness''bullshit I say !! Its no fun when they cant (they can, they're just affraid to) insult any group of people at all anymore. The SImpsons would have away with so much more funnier stuff back in the 90's when American media still had some balls left to screw with any group of people other than Eastern Europeans and Christians

I know it's gotten worse but Simspons always was politically correct and never was bold. It's left wing satire written by liberals.

It's quite well made though and I used to enjoy it despite the propaganda and the pure non-political comedy in it was solid.

I take it you've never actually seen it before, no?

I watched every show from early to mid 90's and from 1996 and forward a couple of shows here and there. Simpsons has never been controversial, not even close. 

But you have a left wing perspective, so you might think that critizising capitalism or the weapon industry is bold.

I think you may live in an alternate reality, where the world is different from the world where The Simpsons was created. And criticizing 'capitalism or the weapons industry' is bold (unless you're a right winger with a distorted view of the world). There's also the fact that The Simpsons is a cartoon, and for a cartoon to be broadcasted during prime time, and for it to be aimed towards more mature individuals, dealing with actual issues (as opposed to having a cat and mouse chase each other), was quite controversial at the time.

Not sure about the USA to be honest but it definately wasn't controversial in Sweden. It was considered mild political satire. Clever but mild.

Don't get me wrong though, I always liked Simpsons.

Criticizing the weapon industry is not bold man, where did you get that from lol? If a cartoon made propaganda for war and money, that would have been bold!

Bold? That's not bold. Hollywood's been doing those ever since it came into existence.


lol wait, people think the Simpsons are actually bold?  It was an important show in the 90's for a variety of reasons but the show has never been really bold.  It tries to take a stance every now and then but still always fails to deliver an actual message.

A great example would be Lisa being a vegetarian.  It would be bold to come out and say nobody should eat meat and then stick to it.  If Lisa converted everyone in the show to being a vegetarian and they stuck to it that would be bold.  Instead, they turn it into a joke where Lisa sticks to her side and everyone else sticks to their side.  Nothing gained, nothing lost, nobody pissed off, and no message.   

For a good example of a bold show watch Southpark.



twesterm said:
sapphi_snake said:
Slimebeast said:

Not sure about the USA to be honest but it definately wasn't controversial in Sweden. It was considered mild political satire. Clever but mild.

Don't get me wrong though, I always liked Simpsons.

Criticizing the weapon industry is not bold man, where did you get that from lol? If a cartoon made propaganda for war and money, that would have been bold!

Bold? That's not bold. Hollywood's been doing those ever since it came into existence.


lol wait, people think the Simpsons are actually bold?  It was an important show in the 90's for a variety of reasons but the show has never been really bold.  It tries to take a stance every now and then but still always fails to deliver an actual message.

A great example would be Lisa being a vegetarian.  It would be bold to come out and say nobody should eat meat and then stick to it.  If Lisa converted everyone in the show to being a vegetarian and they stuck to it that would be bold.  Instead, they turn it into a joke where Lisa sticks to her side and everyone else sticks to their side.  Nothing gained, nothing lost, nobody pissed off, and no message.   

Great example. As a vegetarian myself I wish they'd do that, make Lisa convert tons of people into permanent vegetarians.



Joelcool7 said:

Well all you Simpson fans can be relieved the cast and crew negotiated a pay cut that will allow the show to continue to be produced for at least another season. Fact is the Simpsons crew is one of the highest paid cartoon development teams in the world, I guess if they are willing to take this steep pay cut they must realize the importance of Simpsons to their careers and livelihoods.

However I do have to wonder if Fox executives are taking pay cuts? I mean television shows on Fox and other channels are becoming more and more expensive to produce and less and less revenue is coming in. It used to be a show got 3-million views it would remain on the air for a season it was acceptable. But this season a show got 5-million views and was dropped after three episodes.

Its like all the banks that laid off tons of staff and accepted bail outs, yet their executives barely saw a cut in their pay checks while everyone else within the companies suffered. I like Nintendo's approach where the companies leadership actually takes responsibility for the poor sales and takes a pay cut alongside any other staff receiving the cut.

A company is supposed to be a team, the boss is no good without the team. Sure the boss is important and deserves higher pay but why should the whole team take a pay cut while the executives remain unaffected. I mean really is it the teams fault that sales are winding down or bad business decisions were made by those in leadership? No, so why should the executives be protected at the cost of the developers who actually make the products?

LOL, you got it the other wat around. In the past the top 10 shows used to average close to, or even more than 20 million viewers/episode. Nowadays a show is considered a hit if it manages to get 9-10 million viewers. A show that made just 3 million viewers would've been canceled after 1 episode in the past (granted, 3 million is jsut too low even for today's standards, unless we're talking about The CW).



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

twesterm said:


lol wait, people think the Simpsons are actually bold?  It was an important show in the 90's for a variety of reasons but the show has never been really bold.  It tries to take a stance every now and then but still always fails to deliver an actual message.

A great example would be Lisa being a vegetarian.  It would be bold to come out and say nobody should eat meat and then stick to it.  If Lisa converted everyone in the show to being a vegetarian and they stuck to it that would be bold.  Instead, they turn it into a joke where Lisa sticks to her side and everyone else sticks to their side.  Nothing gained, nothing lost, nobody pissed off, and no message.   

For a good example of a bold show watch Southpark.

That just seems ridiculous. How would Lisa manage to 'convert' the whole town into vegetarianism? It's just really implausible. She became a vegetarian, the whole town was against her, and she stuck to her guns (while simoltaneously realizing that she can't force other people to be like her). And the animal rights message was made pretty clear. Seemed like the most logical conclusion to the episode.

I've never liked South Park. Always seemd quite lame to me.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

I wouldn't be sad to see it go to be honest never really watched other than when nothing else was on.