I'm not a big fan of any one particular team. I enjoy Rex Ryans antics, which is why I tend to root for the Jets, but I also have a big rooting interest in the Giants due to family.

I am not stirring shit, I just call it the way it is. I call it then way it truthfully is.

Yeah I missed him saying that about Eli but I'm not surprised, he likes to bring the NY fans back down to Earth, or at least just twist their tits a little. I will say that he was very complimentary of Eli in the opening segment on his TV show today. I usually only watch the first hour at most cause he's on for like 5-6 hrs.

 I don't have a problem with the accolades that Rodgers gets but you are right about him being off his game early a couple of weeks ago. That first wide open, walk in TD he missed to Jennings is inexplicable. 

As far as how Eli will be percieved if the Giants win this one, I think most sensible people will lay off. When a QB starts to win multiple rings, especially in this fashion, I think it starts to sink in a little. But if Brady has another bad game like this last one, you know they will start to hype up how this is the beginning of the end.

I wanted to cry when that FG went wide! I don't support any team in the NFL, but this time I was rooting for the Ravens, too bad they blew it as a team in a single play. the coach said that he really didn't think about calling a timeout to allow the kicker to take his time!

I'm happy with the Giants though, as I would be happy if the 49ers had won. I just hope they repeat 2008

My own medicine, what did I say that was a lie? Did the Pats not beat a single team that finished with a .500 record? Nobody cares what they could, would or should have had. Everyone knows all that matters in the end is where you finish. Not where you were 2-3 months before.

I also never said those .500 teams were "bad", I just stated that until Baltimore they hadn't beat a team with a record above .500 and that, plus the fact that the GIants beat the Pats at home this year, I didn't agree that the Pats should be favored next week. I was using it as part of my argument as to why I felt the Giants should have been favored.

Who says I was throwing a "fit"? I thought I have been quite calm as I easily move dbetween multiple conversations and subjects. I'm not here to try to stir up anything with anyone, I just saw your thread and felt like talking some football.

I am just arguing in this instance that the Giants deserve more credit than I see given. I hear the excuses the entire ride to work and the entire ride back. The things these callers say... oh my. I think you would like listening Rol, it's pretty funny stuff sometimes. 

As for Rodgers being cocky, it isn't like it's the worst thing in the world, I myself am actually a pretty cocky guy, we think we are better than everyone else in so many things, especially when first going into it. I guess it comes from being very overconfident, but it is a great motivational force sometimes. Anyways, Atrel Rolle mentioned on the radio the week before the Giants/Packers game that he felt Rodgers was "extremely cocky", but he loves it. There are many who don't care for that type of attitude though, I know. It was a subject constantly brought up about Rodgers. It was always felt as though he did not respect his opponents enough. Some could use that a motivational force to really try to put the hurting on him and his recievers and cause them to overthrow and their recievers to drop passes.

I have a friend at work who is a Raven's fan and I picked on him a bit at work, but I told him how I felt they really could have won that game. Plus, why didn't they call a time out? Cundiff wasn't even ready to make that kick, they rushed that whole thing, even the Raven players said it. They rushed to beat the clock instead of using a timeout to get things together. Who cares if the Pats would have then called a timeout to try and ice the kicker, anything is better than rushing like that. it costed them dearly.

3 points is not alot. Getting into 7 points and above is when you can start to say a team is heavily favored. Double digit differentials are massive and I think there has only been 3 instances that a team has won a playoff game when being the underdog by double digits.

Two came in 2001, both by the Patriots in the AFC championship and Superbowl. I think they were 13 point underdogs for that superbowl

The third that I remember was in 2007 when the Patriots were 13 point favorites to win the Superbowl and were upset by the Giants.

I'm not sure as it seems a fair line to me as well. However seeing as the line is based off vegas and incoming bets I can definitely see it changing as we get closer to the actual game. 

I think a lot of people are going to jump on the Giants to win the Superbowl as their the hot team in everyones eyes right now. So with those influx of bets I can see the line dropping further to 2.5 maybe even 2 for the Patriots.

I know the Pats aren't a bad team, they have a hall of fame coach and hall of fame QB and have won (3) rings in 11 years and this is their 5th Superbowl appearance overall in that span. Also 3 points is only a fieldgoal, so they think something like a 24-21 Pats win. It doesn't bother me really that they are underdogs since they always are for some reason, it was just that I wanted to give the argument anyways for why the Giants should be the 3-point favorite instead.

I am not a gambling man though, so the odds don't really effect me. 

As for the quotes, I already gave a good place to start. It wasn't twisted by the media, I heard it myself. I am 100% positive you could find it in the Podcast for WFAN.

As for the "our" part, I would wager that if I said that it has much to do with the fact that I live in New York. Like I said, I have no real particular team. Well, I guess you could consider me a "New York Fan" in this case, if you really want to label me as any sort of fan. I could live with "New York Fan". 

Yes, I know they play in Jersey... 

Won't catch me rooting for the Yankees though.

Oh puuuh-leaze that "catch" by Gronk was as much a catch as Evans td catch - he had two feet down before the ball was swatted away, Gronk caught the ball after his foot left the ground.

This is football injuries happen, worst excuse ever, take that mentality to figure skating or golf where it belongs. Pollard made a clean tackle on Gronk, I suppose you would have loved it if he pranced over with a flower and tried to dance with him instead of tackling him maybe? - His foot got caught under the tackler/in the ground.....its football.....not fluffly play time. Injuries happen in the game and I would never wish it on anyone, I've seen far to many of my teammates with serious injuries in the past being affected in everyday life now; hope dude is ok and back to himself real soon.

I guess on that interception in the end zone where Brady tossed it up into double coverage there was a flag to? The flag didn't come on that first interception until after the throw by the way, so terrible excuse. Brady had a terrible game, absolutely terrible....Joe Flacco outplayed him...the word good does not come to mind when you think of Brady's play in that game - no TD passes and 2 interceptions. NE's D played amazing in shutting down Ray Rice and Wilfork was clearly the MVP of that game, and other than Cuntiff shanking the FG was the only reason they won.....not Brady. The Raven's live in that dude's head. 

Im not counting on Brady playing shaky and im not counting on Eli getting hit 22 times and sacked 6 times. It's open season in 2 weeks and thank God the superbowl wont be a boring snoozefest of Harbaugh vs Harbaugh.

They specifically went back over that play at half time and showed that he had both feet down and posession of the ball. Why Belicheck didn't challenge is beyond me, I'm guessin someone messed up at their job and didn't inform him in time.

I was clearly joking about taking out Pollard. What I was showing you was how pathetic it looks to make excuses why a team didn't win. Both sides can come up with plenty of reasons why they could have played better.

I specifically said that Brady had a bad game and that throw into double coverage at the end of the game was horrible. But don't act like Brady didn't come through with some amazing plays despite his mistakes. Driving the length of the field and diving over the pile on 4 and 1 for the touchdown was brilliant and ultimately decided the game. Flacco did not outplay Brady, they both played equally bad. How many times did Flacco have guys open down the field and missed them, I can tell you it was plenty. Heck Flacco got the ball back with amazing field position when Woodhead fumbled the ball. All he had to do was score a touchdown and the game was pretty much over. Instead he came up short, settled for a field goal and the rest is history.

Oh and about the Giants and 49ers game. The conditions sucked and Eli is tough as hell to take all those hits and keep going.  The fact that he didn't turn the ball over at all is probably the most amazing aspect of the whole thing. But don't act like bad field conditions benefits the defense cause I can tell you 100 percent having been a cornerback myself that a slippery field always benefits the offense. The very nature of being a defensive player is reacting. The offensive player knows where he's going and positions himself to get to his spot, trying to make the necessary cuts to keep up with a reciever is unbelievably difficult on a muddy field.