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justinian on 04 October 2011
S____M____C____C said:
Mr Khan said:
Seece said:
S____M____C____C said:
Horrible article, but the point still remains....

Nintendo's customers are the ones who are most likely to flock towards phone/tablet games, and Nintendo will struggle to attract your typical Xbox/PlayStation buyer.

They have a lot of work to do.

Yup, this, Nintendo have a small dedicated userbase of probably under 20 million (at least for consoles) unless Nintendo came up with a console that hit it off like Wii again could they sustain generation after generation with a 20 mill userbase?

WiiU will do more than 20 mill for usre, it still has remenents of the wii, but they can't live off of that forever. Sony have a loyal market in EMEAA and Microsoft have Xbox Live in America, BOTH are stable and I don't care what anyone says it isn't 'all to play for' concerning those two in those regions.

LIVE is hard to chew through, certainly, though an inter-generational fault line is really the only time anyone can even try, but Sony's lead in EMEAA is mostly due to superior supplier relations in that area (where Nintendo especially has always had a diminished presence simply for a lack of having consoles available for sale), one that could be handily broken down were someone willing to try

Mostly, however, Nintendo can prosper so long as they actually remain in the multiplat loop this time (and third parties don't actively conspire to put them out of the loop as they did for no good reason other than spite in the GC days), and otherwise continue to chart the course that they did with the Wii. The masses of samey third party games can provide whatever it is the market's looking for that's distinct from what Nintendo themselves provide

Sony's lead in EMEAA is not 'mostly' down to superior supplier relations. The Sony brand is stronger in these areas and their product is more appealing to audiences there.

And, I disagree with the 2nd paragraph. If Microsoft and Sony come out with superior consoles, why is someone who is not a loyal Nintendo gamer going to buy the WiiU to play 3rd party games on? 

I mostly agree with him on "Sony's lead in EMEAA is mostly due to superior supplier relations in that area".

Sony has invested a lot of money building up their supply links and are actively looking to exploit this even more in developing markets.

As a manufactuer of every kind of electronics these supply links are vital as well as their brand name. No one is stopping Nintendo (or MS for that matter) from making their own supply links - some might argue is it worth it to just sell consoles - in these areas.

This is Sony's strength and one that stands them in a strong position going forward. The ecomic balance of the world is changing and the companies that adapt best or are in a position to take advantage of these changes will be in good shape.

As for the article it is badly written in more ways than one.

 



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forest-spirit on 04 October 2011

Atleast the article has some entertainment values.



DélioPT on 04 October 2011

I`ll just say i disagree with almost everything.
MS might have resonated with another audience - Sony hasn`t done that so much - but still, it did more at the beginning of Kinect than it is doing now.
The power of a console matters not. It did not matter, to PS1, PS2 or Wii.
The tablet like controller is a perfect fit for core console gamers, core tablet gamers and casual gamers on both sides. With that controller alone - if Nintendo and 3rd parties do take advantage of it - will appeal to an even bigger audience. Of course, given the games, gamers will come!
Saying that Nintendo is just Mario, Zelda and DK is forggeting titles like Wii Sports, Wii Fit and Pokemon.

Giving me the chance to play almost everywhere i want in my house if people want to use the TV when i`m playing, is more than a winning point, it`s WINNING! And is far more effective when you are giving that interaction on the get go for a smaller price when compared to other possible combinations.



cAPSLOCK on 04 October 2011
S____M____C____C said:
Nintendo's customers are the ones who are most likely to flock towards phone/tablet games, and Nintendo will struggle to attract your typical Xbox/PlayStation buyer.*

*citation needed



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sethnintendo on 04 October 2011
Troll_Whisperer said:
It looks like a 12 year old wrote this. There are even grammatical errors...


Yea, after reading it another time I noticed a problem with almost every sentence.

"Nintendo are banking on classics such as Mario Kart, Super Mario and Zelda to beat off the competition from Sony's PS Vista"

"Nintendo are heading in the same direction"

I suppose he doesn't even realize Nintendo is a single company. 



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Solid-Stark on 04 October 2011

The title gives it away easy.



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sethnintendo on 04 October 2011
RolStoppable said:
sethnintendo said:
Troll_Whisperer said:
It looks like a 12 year old wrote this. There are even grammatical errors...


Yea, after reading it another time I noticed a problem with almost every sentence.

"Nintendo are banking on classics such as Mario Kart, Super Mario and Zelda to beat off the competition from Sony's PS Vista"

"Nintendo are heading in the same direction"

I guess the problem with the second sentence is the verb that should be "is"?

For me "space of time" was the best error.


Yea, he should be using is instead of are.  He also doesn't even know the correct name of Sony's next hand held system.



Moren on 04 October 2011
Seece said:

Yup, this, Nintendo have a small dedicated userbase of probably under 20 million (at least for consoles) unless Nintendo came up with a console that hit it off like Wii again could they sustain generation after generation with a 20 mill userbase?

WiiU will do more than 20 mill for sure, it still has remenents of the wii, but they can't live off of that forever. Sony have a loyal market in EMEAA and Microsoft have Xbox Live in America, BOTH are stable and I don't care what anyone says it isn't 'all to play for' concerning those two in those regions.

Oh dear...

There is no proof of that stament, that is just you basing on the Wii's late performance, of course, Wii sold on hype and motion controls, but stating Nintendo's loyal fanbase isn't as big as Sony or MS is just a wishful guess.

In the end anyway, loyal fanbase aren't always the ultimate factor.

Nintendo's fanbase didn't mind moving to the PS1.

Sony's fanbase didn't mind moving to the Wii.

Nitendo's fanbase won't mind moving on if WiiU doesn't have what they wish. Or staying, if they get a great product.

 

It is ok not liking Nintendo, but saying the solid fanbase isn't as big as Sony's or MS's is just pathetic, a poster of your status should know better.



amp316 on 04 October 2011

When in doubt I will hit the return button.

It makes it look like a professional article even if I'm an an idiot.

People will more likely read my article if it isn't a wall of text.

My name is Faisal Alani.

I love the return button.



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VGKing on 04 October 2011

He makes some good points. Nintendos Mario/Zelda games are a blessing and a curse. They sell so much that there's no room for 3rd party games to sell......

Honestly, would it really be a bad idea if Nintendo became a software company lets say....10 years from now? I don't think there's room for 3 consoles in the market.