kitler53 said: so that's what happened to gran turismo...

This obviously Xxcludes SONY's Japan studios.

1. Already posted.

2. Uncharted is amazing so who cares.

3. All companies copy what the other  competing comapany is doing to some extent.

4. Gears is not shit, deal with it.

It's called borrowing successful ELEMENTS from popular games. It happens

brendude13 said: So they sold out for the simpletons... Not that I have anything against realistic shooters, but if Naughty Dog had to change the game to be more realistic and violent just so it could sell more, then it makes gamers this generation look like shallow morons. I'm not complaining though, it ended up an excellent game.

I don't think he's calling Xbox owners simpletons. He's calling the general public, or shooter fans, simpletons. That's not necessarilly an insult toward Xbox owners. The mass public is less educated than the hardcore & more likely to follow the 'what's hot' trend as opposed to thinking for themselves.

If fact, if you read a few lines down, then you can see that Not only is this directed at the general public (Not Xbox owners), it's also directed at Uncharted fans that bought it because it had shooting. Hell, he even says gamers of the GENERATION are shallow. One can look at sales this gen and see that this statement holds merit. Any popular game is going to have a large portion of the fanbase composed simpletons. I really don't see the problem in this post.

Definitely isn't directed at Xbox owners. Not worth a 3 day ban IMO. Pretty questionable ban Twesterm.

Jay520 said: brendude13 said: So they sold out for the simpletons... Not that I have anything against realistic shooters, but if Naughty Dog had to change the game to be more realistic and violent just so it could sell more, then it makes gamers this generation look like shallow morons. I'm not complaining though, it ended up an excellent game. I don't think he's calling Xbox owners simpletons. He's calling the general public, or shooter fans, simpletons. That's not necessarilly an insult toward Xbox owners. The mass public is less educated than the hardcore & more likely to follow the 'what's hot' trend as opposed to thinking for themselves. If fact, if you read a few lines down, then you can see that Not only is this directed at the general public (Not Xbox owners), it's also directed at Uncharted fans that bought it because it had shooting. Hell, he even says gamers of the GENERATION are shallow. One can look at sales this gen and see that this statement holds merit. Any popular game is going to have a large portion of the fanbase composed simpletons. I really don't see the problem in this post. Definitely isn't directed at Xbox owners. Not worth a 3 day ban IMO. Pretty questionable ban Twesterm.

He was banned for that?

i cant complain. i love uncharted and all sony games they have came out with! so thanks you xbox for pushing sony into making AWESOME,FUN,GREAT & all of the above games :D

Xxain didn't you read this thread: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=134489&page=1#?

Oh wait you did. Well it's exactly the same as this one

Xxain said: Jay520 said: brendude13 said: So they sold out for the simpletons... Not that I have anything against realistic shooters, but if Naughty Dog had to change the game to be more realistic and violent just so it could sell more, then it makes gamers this generation look like shallow morons. I'm not complaining though, it ended up an excellent game. I don't think he's calling Xbox owners simpletons. He's calling the general public, or shooter fans, simpletons. That's not necessarilly an insult toward Xbox owners. The mass public is less educated than the hardcore & more likely to follow the 'what's hot' trend as opposed to thinking for themselves. If fact, if you read a few lines down, then you can see that Not only is this directed at the general public (Not Xbox owners), it's also directed at Uncharted fans that bought it because it had shooting. Hell, he even says gamers of the GENERATION are shallow. One can look at sales this gen and see that this statement holds merit. Any popular game is going to have a large portion of the fanbase composed simpletons. I really don't see the problem in this post. Definitely isn't directed at Xbox owners. Not worth a 3 day ban IMO. Pretty questionable ban Twesterm. He was banned for that?

Yup, check his profile.

Xxain said: spurgeonryan said: Everyone usually learnes from their mistakes! Microsoft learned from the original xbox, Playstation and Microsoft learned from the wii motion type stuff. People in America in particular seem to love action and FPS games, so of course Sony was going to follow suit. I just hope that Nintendo can learn from their lessons as well. I have a brother who has been in jail like 6 times, he is one of those who does not learn. Why does Nintendo need to learn? They stuck to there guns this Gen and it was very successful for them.

Because for the core gamer it was nothing but shit games. Sure you had the shining light such as Galaxy 1 and 2, but other than that it was just a buncha rehashes or another gimmick or shovelware game. They ended up alienating the core and now they even dropped to the point of being close to the PSP WW. It was a complete missed opportunity considering the potential with motion controls. Someone better not even say they would be in the same scenario had they not implemented motion controls cuz then they would just be smoking crack. Zelda should have at LEAST come out last year as that is one of their higher selling core titles not named Mario. On one side you have Muramasa, NMH, Red Steel 2, Twilight Princess (port), NSMBW, DKC: R, but on the other you have crap like cooking mama, and Wii Fit....seriously? A person with half a brain would buy on ebay some Richard Simmons DVD for cheaper and get a better work out, and you have better tutorials and sims for cooking out there for cheaper. True it's a good idea to go after the blue ocean, but it's imperative to transition them into your more serious first party efforts such as your Mario games and the like.

Nintendo came from 2 gens, 1 more atrocious than the other where they were absolutely crushed no less than 2.5-5-1, yet with arguably more powerful systems, to this gen where they have beat out their competition but steadily losing marketshare by the week. Once the cloud settles people realize they get more value from the 360 and/or PS3 with more support ranging from 1st to 3rd party. Sony was never this lazy when they were in first, and I am sure M$ would be similar if they would be in that position, but Nintendo just became outright lazy. Here's hoping that Skyward Sword can at LEAST have a quality similar to ALTTP or my fav Majora's Mask.

OT: Sad that Uncharted was shaped to be different than what was in ND's minds, but at least they kept the personalities colorful and the gameplay solid. I'll still take Uncharted over Gears any day. After Gears 1, I got tired of playing characters that moved like tanks, for that I'll go back and play RE1-3.

Xxain said: kitler53 said: so that's what happened to gran turismo... This obviously Xxcludes SONY's Japan studios.

would you prefer i had said killzone then?