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Forums - PC - AMD's GPU roadmap leaked- HD7970 to hit 1000 MHz!

Charlie says it's fake, so it is.

http://www.semiaccurate.com/forums/showthread.php?p=132861#post132861

It also doesn't make sense because 28nm is yielding terribly, so how would they be able to get clockspeeds that high? And XDR2 makes no sense because it has less bandwidth than GDDR5 which AMD themselves designed.



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i've been waiting for this to release, the last GPU AMD made was noisy as hell and sucked a lot of power =/

oh and it was huge,.



1000 Mhz = 1 Gig... whats so special?



PullusPardus said:

i've been waiting for this to release, the last GPU AMD made was noisy as hell and sucked a lot of power =/

oh and it was huge,.

What are you even talking about.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/20126/15

The 6970 wasn't especially noisy, consumed a reasonable amount of power and was good value compared to Nvidia competition.

Nvidia's GPU was bigger and used more power.



o_O.Q said:
1000 Mhz = 1 Gig... whats so special?

AMD GPUs have previously run in the 800MHz range. I think Nvidia GPUs have been clocked at about 1.4GHz on the shaders for a while now. That doesn't mean Nvidia is better, it's a tradeoff based on shader amount, density, power and clockspeed.

The process used to make CPUs and GPUs is very different. Intel and AMD's CPU process nodes get 4GHz max; TSMC's get ~1.6GHz max (Bobcat).

This is fake fake fake though so irrelevant.



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Unfortunately, I knew it was fake the instant I read about XDR2. AMD would shot themselves in the feet by making such a deal with Rambus. Oh, and there will be no 28nm high-end parts this year,

As a sidenote, it would be not that great of an improvement even if it were real TBH, which ironically made them a bit more reliable even dreaming about XDR2. Some hardware areas - if not most of them - are crawling compared to how fast they advanced in the late 90's to mid 00's. There is simply not much demand for more, outside of portables, and some obvious physical restrictions.

Moore's law is going to shit and most manufactures, mainly Intel, do not admit so, in order to please shareholders and blind them to the obvious issues they are going to face very soon. Do not be surprised to see hardware manufactures defending some kind of killswitch the way developers are moaning about used games, a few years from now.



 

 

 

 

 

haxxiy said:
Unfortunately, I knew it was fake the instant I read about XDR2. AMD would shot themselves in the feet by making such a deal with Rambus. Oh, and there will be no 28nm high-end parts this year,

AMD promised them this year and demoed a working GPU. It depends on whether TSMC can improve the process in time. I'm betting no but it is purely a 28nm issue and not an AMD one.

As a sidenote, it would be not that great of an improvement even if it were real TBH, which ironically made them a bit more reliable even dreaming about XDR2. Some hardware areas - if not most of them - are crawling compared to how fast they advanced in the late 90's to mid 00's. There is simply not much demand for more, outside of portables, and some obvious physical restrictions.

Yes. Memory bandwidth is not something consumer applications of any kind are short of; look how little DDR3, tri-channel memory or PCIe-2.0 did. The two key metrics consumers benefit from are battery life and disk performance (i.e. SSDs).

Moore's law is going to shit and most manufactures, mainly Intel, do not admit so, in order to please shareholders and blind them to the obvious issues they are going to face very soon. Do not be surprised to see hardware manufactures defending some kind of killswitch the way developers are moaning about used games, a few years from now.

Funny you should say that; Intel announced two days ago that scaling is dead. For real.

http://download.intel.com/newsroom/kits/idf/2011_fall/pdfs/2011_IDF_Otellini_Opening_Keynote.pdf

Page 11.

But before it is dead it will become very expensive. Many companies already stopped in-house process nodes (notably TI and AMD). Several foundries stopped bothering to develop new nodes (Chartered and UMC).

Currently we only have Intel, Globalfoundries/IBM/Samsung and TSMC doing development. I think IBM and Samsung won't bother to go to 16nm on actual production and TSMC will give up on 11nm due to the exponentially rising costs.

Intel and Globalfoundries will be the last companies standing when scaling stops.

 

 





PullusPardus said:
Xen said:
So happy that I didn't buy a gaming PC yet ^_^
2012, here I come!

a good thing to do is actually buy now and upgrade later when this is released, right now they will get a lot cheaper since these new generations ones are going to be released.

it will save you alot more money this way.

I was gonna write a coherent reply until I saw it was fake =/



Soleron said:
Charlie says it's fake, so it is.

http://www.semiaccurate.com/forums/showthread.php?p=132861#post132861

It also doesn't make sense because 28nm is yielding terribly, so how would they be able to get clockspeeds that high? And XDR2 makes no sense because it has less bandwidth than GDDR5 which AMD themselves designed.

Well, that's dissapointing. I was hoping it would be real (specially the power consumption bit).

 



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ithis said:
I don't want to spoil the party, this is all great and such, but what's so special about 1000Mhz that you feel that's the thing to point out?

It would be special because, as far as I know, no GPU has hit that speed without overclocking.



Please excuse my bad English.

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Current gaming PC: R5-7600, 32GB RAM 6000MT/s (CL30) and a RX 9060XT 16GB

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