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blkfish92 on 17 September 2011

LOL you said that it might be over tracked that's hilarious!



           

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hatmoza on 17 September 2011

What's even more sad is how heavily advertised this was/is.



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yo_john117 on 17 September 2011
shuraiya said:
Looks like my prediction of less than 100k lifetime may be dead-on. Despite the marketing campaign, the game didn't really look that good, so it's no surprise.

No it will most likely do quite a bit better than that. It had a WW opening of almost 30k.



shuraiya on 17 September 2011
yo_john117 said:
shuraiya said:
Looks like my prediction of less than 100k lifetime may be dead-on. Despite the marketing campaign, the game didn't really look that good, so it's no surprise.

No it will most likely do quite a bit better than that. It had a WW opening of almost 30k.


I expect the numbers to drop off pretty sharply after the 1st week, plus I don't see it performing well over the holidays.



yo_john117 on 17 September 2011
shuraiya said:
yo_john117 said:
shuraiya said:
Looks like my prediction of less than 100k lifetime may be dead-on. Despite the marketing campaign, the game didn't really look that good, so it's no surprise.

No it will most likely do quite a bit better than that. It had a WW opening of almost 30k.


I expect the numbers to drop off pretty sharply after the 1st week, plus I don't see it performing well over the holidays.

The thing that i've noticed about Kinect games though is that they may not have spectacular launches but they just keep trucking along. 

Here are some FW sales compared to lifetime for a a bunch of Kinect games.

 

Kinect Sports: FW = 305k, LTD (life Time to Date) = 3.27 Million

Body and Brain Connection: FW = 5k, LTD = 74k 

Game Party in Motion: FW = 43k, LTD = 358k

EA Sports Active 2: FW = 15k, LTD = 278k

Dance Central: FW = 163k, LTD = 2.19 Million

Dance Masters: FW = 8k, LTD =81k

Your Shape: Fitness Evolved: FW = 73k, LTD = 924k

Kinect Joy Ride: FW = 63k, LTD = 882k

 

And here is one that opened up near to what this game did plus it also had horrible reviews.

Sonic Free Riders: FW = 38k, LTD = 507k

 

 

Mark my words this game will pass 250k and it will do it without breaking too much of a sweat.



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shuraiya on 17 September 2011
yo_john117 said:
shuraiya said:
yo_john117 said:
shuraiya said:
Looks like my prediction of less than 100k lifetime may be dead-on. Despite the marketing campaign, the game didn't really look that good, so it's no surprise.

No it will most likely do quite a bit better than that. It had a WW opening of almost 30k.


I expect the numbers to drop off pretty sharply after the 1st week, plus I don't see it performing well over the holidays.

The thing that i've noticed about Kinect games though is that they may not have spectacular launches but they just keep trucking along. 

Here are some FW sales compared to lifetime for a a bunch of Kinect games.

 

Kinect Sports: FW = 305k, LTD (life Time to Date) = 3.27 Million

Body and Brain Connection: FW = 5k, LTD = 74k 

Game Party in Motion: FW = 43k, LTD = 358k

EA Sports Active 2: FW = 15k, LTD = 278k

Dance Central: FW = 163k, LTD = 2.19 Million

Dance Masters: FW = 8k, LTD =81k

Your Shape: Fitness Evolved: FW = 73k, LTD = 924k

Kinect Joy Ride: FW = 63k, LTD = 882k

 

And here is one that opened up near to what this game did plus it also had horrible reviews.

Sonic Free Riders: FW = 38k, LTD = 507k

 

 

Mark my words this game will pass 250k and it will do it without breaking too much of a sweat.

 

I'm aware of that, I just expect this one to be the exception; the game's Mature rating also sets it apart from those other games. I could be wrong, but I'd imagine this game is aimed at not just the core crowd, but people like us who frequent forums like these. Overall, reviews haven't been kind to this game and core gamers have well over a dozen other titles releasing between now and the end of the year from which to choose--many of which can be considered blockbusters. With that in mind I expect this title to simply be swept aside and largely forgotten in the deluge of vastly superior titles--judging by previews at least--fast approaching. I do hope I'm wrong, because it would be a shame if poor sales discourages Microsoft from pursuing other titles in a similar vein.



Slimebeast on 17 September 2011

Honestly, Kinect is practically finished. It will have its last season this Holiday selling to the casuals, maybe 3-4 million units but next year everyone will proclaim Kinect as dead.

Kinect doesn't attract core gamers at all (neither does Move, so I have set that clear) and motion controls will soon be declared a gimmicky thing from the past.



yo_john117 on 17 September 2011
shuraiya said:
yo_john117 said:
shuraiya said:
yo_john117 said:
shuraiya said:
Looks like my prediction of less than 100k lifetime may be dead-on. Despite the marketing campaign, the game didn't really look that good, so it's no surprise.

No it will most likely do quite a bit better than that. It had a WW opening of almost 30k.


I expect the numbers to drop off pretty sharply after the 1st week, plus I don't see it performing well over the holidays.

The thing that i've noticed about Kinect games though is that they may not have spectacular launches but they just keep trucking along. 

Here are some FW sales compared to lifetime for a a bunch of Kinect games.

 

Kinect Sports: FW = 305k, LTD (life Time to Date) = 3.27 Million

Body and Brain Connection: FW = 5k, LTD = 74k 

Game Party in Motion: FW = 43k, LTD = 358k

EA Sports Active 2: FW = 15k, LTD = 278k

Dance Central: FW = 163k, LTD = 2.19 Million

Dance Masters: FW = 8k, LTD =81k

Your Shape: Fitness Evolved: FW = 73k, LTD = 924k

Kinect Joy Ride: FW = 63k, LTD = 882k

 

And here is one that opened up near to what this game did plus it also had horrible reviews.

Sonic Free Riders: FW = 38k, LTD = 507k

 

 

Mark my words this game will pass 250k and it will do it without breaking too much of a sweat.

 

I'm aware of that, I just expect this one to be the exception; the game's Mature rating also sets it apart from those other games. I could be wrong, but I'd imagine this game is aimed at not just the core crowd, but people like us who frequent forums like these. Overall, reviews haven't been kind to this game and core gamers have well over a dozen other titles releasing between now and the end of the year from which to choose--many of which can be considered blockbusters. With that in mind I expect this title to simply be swept aside and largely forgotten in the deluge of vastly superior titles--judging by previews at least--fast approaching. I do hope I'm wrong, because it would be a shame if poor sales discourages Microsoft from pursuing other titles in a similar vein.

Well I guess we will have to see then.

Hey are you interested in making a friendly bet?



shuraiya on 17 September 2011
yo_john117 said:
shuraiya said:
yo_john117 said:
shuraiya said:
yo_john117 said:
shuraiya said:
Looks like my prediction of less than 100k lifetime may be dead-on. Despite the marketing campaign, the game didn't really look that good, so it's no surprise.

No it will most likely do quite a bit better than that. It had a WW opening of almost 30k.


I expect the numbers to drop off pretty sharply after the 1st week, plus I don't see it performing well over the holidays.

The thing that i've noticed about Kinect games though is that they may not have spectacular launches but they just keep trucking along. 

Here are some FW sales compared to lifetime for a a bunch of Kinect games.

 

Kinect Sports: FW = 305k, LTD (life Time to Date) = 3.27 Million

Body and Brain Connection: FW = 5k, LTD = 74k 

Game Party in Motion: FW = 43k, LTD = 358k

EA Sports Active 2: FW = 15k, LTD = 278k

Dance Central: FW = 163k, LTD = 2.19 Million

Dance Masters: FW = 8k, LTD =81k

Your Shape: Fitness Evolved: FW = 73k, LTD = 924k

Kinect Joy Ride: FW = 63k, LTD = 882k

 

And here is one that opened up near to what this game did plus it also had horrible reviews.

Sonic Free Riders: FW = 38k, LTD = 507k

 

 

Mark my words this game will pass 250k and it will do it without breaking too much of a sweat.

 

I'm aware of that, I just expect this one to be the exception; the game's Mature rating also sets it apart from those other games. I could be wrong, but I'd imagine this game is aimed at not just the core crowd, but people like us who frequent forums like these. Overall, reviews haven't been kind to this game and core gamers have well over a dozen other titles releasing between now and the end of the year from which to choose--many of which can be considered blockbusters. With that in mind I expect this title to simply be swept aside and largely forgotten in the deluge of vastly superior titles--judging by previews at least--fast approaching. I do hope I'm wrong, because it would be a shame if poor sales discourages Microsoft from pursuing other titles in a similar vein.

Well I guess we will have to see then.

Hey are you interested in making a friendly bet?


Sure, a bet sounds fine; what do you have in mind?



yo_john117 on 17 September 2011
shuraiya said:
yo_john117 said:
shuraiya said:
yo_john117 said:

The thing that i've noticed about Kinect games though is that they may not have spectacular launches but they just keep trucking along. 

Here are some FW sales compared to lifetime for a a bunch of Kinect games.

 

Kinect Sports: FW = 305k, LTD (life Time to Date) = 3.27 Million

Body and Brain Connection: FW = 5k, LTD = 74k 

Game Party in Motion: FW = 43k, LTD = 358k

EA Sports Active 2: FW = 15k, LTD = 278k

Dance Central: FW = 163k, LTD = 2.19 Million

Dance Masters: FW = 8k, LTD =81k

Your Shape: Fitness Evolved: FW = 73k, LTD = 924k

Kinect Joy Ride: FW = 63k, LTD = 882k

 

And here is one that opened up near to what this game did plus it also had horrible reviews.

Sonic Free Riders: FW = 38k, LTD = 507k

 

 

Mark my words this game will pass 250k and it will do it without breaking too much of a sweat.

 

I'm aware of that, I just expect this one to be the exception; the game's Mature rating also sets it apart from those other games. I could be wrong, but I'd imagine this game is aimed at not just the core crowd, but people like us who frequent forums like these. Overall, reviews haven't been kind to this game and core gamers have well over a dozen other titles releasing between now and the end of the year from which to choose--many of which can be considered blockbusters. With that in mind I expect this title to simply be swept aside and largely forgotten in the deluge of vastly superior titles--judging by previews at least--fast approaching. I do hope I'm wrong, because it would be a shame if poor sales discourages Microsoft from pursuing other titles in a similar vein.

Well I guess we will have to see then.

Hey are you interested in making a friendly bet?


Sure, a bet sounds fine; what do you have in mind?

That Rise of Nightmares will pass 160k before the end of the year. Winner gets avatar control for 1 week.