Xen said: It wasn't open to anything because you couldn't do shit in that game but battle until you're tired of it. And FFX2 was a fine homage to the fans of the first game with a terrific battle system and cute cast. I don't get the beef with it.
Someone sounds a bit mad. I was talking about it being open in the sense that you could actually walk places, which you never could in FFX, no matter where in the game you were.
Behold, the glory that is FFX-2:
The day the series lost all of its respect.
Yep, you could walk places. Forward 99% of the time, the other percent divided between left and right. It was a wannabe-RPG on rails.
Also, you rant on about how the series lost all respect and such and such and cherrypick a (rather funny) minigame to prove it and then you call me angry - it's all very ironic and funny and I think I'll fold here since this isn't going anywhere.
Just like FFX, exactly my point.
I've been ranting? I did not notice, I've been mostly just saying my opinion pretty calmly. I would hardly call a rant something that is two lines. It's not cherry picking, it's a clip showing how shameless the series has become, the series has no self-respect and that mini-game is essentially just a pure concentration of what the series has become.
Win by forfeit, heck yeah!
"I was talking about it being open in the sense that you could actually walk places, which you never could in FFX, no matter where in the game you were."
Win by someone self-defeating his own view of the games?
Christhor said: Who cares, FFX was terrible. Updating the graphics on a terrible game? Count me in!
FFX > P4
OT: It has to be a deal between SE and Sony - no other reason is logical.
Eh, I'm not really that big of a fan of Persona 4 anymore, but it sure is nice to have horrible, douchey characters with no depth and a story which basically revolves around a terrible romance and underwater polo. Also the most linear game ever created, more so than even FFXIII.
Up until this statement I couldn't just call you a random hater. With it, I can. Because you either:
1. Didn't play FFX
2. Didn't play FFXIII
3. Are deliberately twisting facts
nothing personal.
Random hater? Not at all, I've played all of the Final Fantasies (except for the online ones) after VII. FFX only opens up in the slightest after you get the airship, which is after the game is basically done, just the final boss and some random side quests to do if you're actually going to waste your time playing this game. FFXIII on the other hand opens up about halfway through the game and then you can run through huge open fields! Oh the joy.
You have only played the final fantasy games after VII.......right. Your opinion is not really valid so. Every final fantasy game after FF X has been awfull except for FF2. Final Fantasy X is an amazing game with incredible characters and a great battle system. Why does an rpg have to open up to be good.....broaden your rpg horizons man. I am an rpg collector, I have over 70 rpg's and 3/4 of them don't "open up" at all yet they are still incredible.
Not only the games after FFVII, I've also played FFI, II, FFVI and quite a few of the spin-offs. I don't mean to be rude or anything, sir, but I'm pretty sure that X comes after 2, since X is 10 and 10 is quite a bit higher than 2 when it comes to franchise entries. They don't have to be open, they need a good story and good characters though.
Xen said: It wasn't open to anything because you couldn't do shit in that game but battle until you're tired of it. And FFX2 was a fine homage to the fans of the first game with a terrific battle system and cute cast. I don't get the beef with it.
Someone sounds a bit mad. I was talking about it being open in the sense that you could actually walk places, which you never could in FFX, no matter where in the game you were.
Behold, the glory that is FFX-2:
The day the series lost all of its respect.
Yep, you could walk places. Forward 99% of the time, the other percent divided between left and right. It was a wannabe-RPG on rails.
Also, you rant on about how the series lost all respect and such and such and cherrypick a (rather funny) minigame to prove it and then you call me angry - it's all very ironic and funny and I think I'll fold here since this isn't going anywhere.
Just like FFX, exactly my point.
I've been ranting? I did not notice, I've been mostly just saying my opinion pretty calmly. I would hardly call a rant something that is two lines. It's not cherry picking, it's a clip showing how shameless the series has become, the series has no self-respect and that mini-game is essentially just a pure concentration of what the series has become.
Win by forfeit, heck yeah!
"I was talking about it being open in the sense that you could actually walk places, which you never could in FFX, no matter where in the game you were."
Win by someone self-defeating his own view of the games?
I was talking about the "It's a wannabe-RPG on rails", sir.
Xen said: It wasn't open to anything because you couldn't do shit in that game but battle until you're tired of it. And FFX2 was a fine homage to the fans of the first game with a terrific battle system and cute cast. I don't get the beef with it.
Someone sounds a bit mad. I was talking about it being open in the sense that you could actually walk places, which you never could in FFX, no matter where in the game you were.
Behold, the glory that is FFX-2:
The day the series lost all of its respect.
Yep, you could walk places. Forward 99% of the time, the other percent divided between left and right. It was a wannabe-RPG on rails.
Also, you rant on about how the series lost all respect and such and such and cherrypick a (rather funny) minigame to prove it and then you call me angry - it's all very ironic and funny and I think I'll fold here since this isn't going anywhere.
Just like FFX, exactly my point.
I've been ranting? I did not notice, I've been mostly just saying my opinion pretty calmly. I would hardly call a rant something that is two lines. It's not cherry picking, it's a clip showing how shameless the series has become, the series has no self-respect and that mini-game is essentially just a pure concentration of what the series has become.
Win by forfeit, heck yeah!
"I was talking about it being open in the sense that you could actually walk places, which you never could in FFX, no matter where in the game you were."
Win by someone self-defeating his own view of the games?
I was talking about the "It's a wannabe-RPG on rails", sir.
FFX has more than a plenty of elements to qualify as an RPG so... it's moot.
Christhor said: Who cares, FFX was terrible. Updating the graphics on a terrible game? Count me in!
FF X is universally accliamed so you are wrong, wrong, wrong. For its time, it was ahead of the game by a country mile.
GTAIV is one of the most acclaimed games of all time. Point?
And millions of people love both games. Just because a few angry teenage nerds hate the game on the vgchartz forums doesn't mean the game sucks.
I haven't really been on VGChartz for a while, I didn't even know it was disliked as it should be. Anyone smart enough to open a door can see that San Andread was much more fun and a better game than IV and that got nowhere close to as good a score as IV. Critics are biased beasts.
I don't think it's gonna be a "full on new game" type of remake (Who here really thinks this?), more like all the other "HD remakes" with mostly just an upgraded resolution
So one DVD (not even DL) is enough for it.
By the way, most of the space that FFXIII takes up is just high quality HD video/audio, the game itself is actually nowhere near that big
Yes, it will be an HD "remaster". Knowing SE and its obsession for details hopefully it will run at 1080p and 60 fps. That means the textures will take much more space. Also the audio/video should be redone, hopefully at the same quality of FF VII Advent Children. Which compressed takes 6-7GB for 100 minutes. The FMV in FF X all together are much longer. The ending takes something like 40 minutes itself. Plus all the videos before and during the main battle(s). But ok, that could be a DVD alone.
Spira felt much bigger than Gran Pulse. At least much more diversified. Than there is Sid as well. Don't forget that you must add all possible monsters. I really mean ALL of them. They are all needed to build the Arena. The cinematic fights with the Aeons and against the Dark Aeons. Or with the magic (Ultima anyone?). Not just some turtles.
It might take less space than FF XIII. After all it doesn' have a fulll 3D camera. But contrarely to it, FF X can't be easily splitted.
Anyway, I *am* excited. I played it 3 times already, 100% once, but the trophy addition will make it stimulating to play it to the end again!!
Xen said: It wasn't open to anything because you couldn't do shit in that game but battle until you're tired of it. And FFX2 was a fine homage to the fans of the first game with a terrific battle system and cute cast. I don't get the beef with it.
Someone sounds a bit mad. I was talking about it being open in the sense that you could actually walk places, which you never could in FFX, no matter where in the game you were.
Behold, the glory that is FFX-2:
The day the series lost all of its respect.
Yep, you could walk places. Forward 99% of the time, the other percent divided between left and right. It was a wannabe-RPG on rails.
Also, you rant on about how the series lost all respect and such and such and cherrypick a (rather funny) minigame to prove it and then you call me angry - it's all very ironic and funny and I think I'll fold here since this isn't going anywhere.
Just like FFX, exactly my point.
I've been ranting? I did not notice, I've been mostly just saying my opinion pretty calmly. I would hardly call a rant something that is two lines. It's not cherry picking, it's a clip showing how shameless the series has become, the series has no self-respect and that mini-game is essentially just a pure concentration of what the series has become.
Win by forfeit, heck yeah!
"I was talking about it being open in the sense that you could actually walk places, which you never could in FFX, no matter where in the game you were."
Win by someone self-defeating his own view of the games?
I was talking about the "It's a wannabe-RPG on rails", sir.
FFX has more than a plenty of elements to qualify as an RPG so... it's moot.
Oh? What is it that makes FFXIII "a wannabe-RPG on rails" while FFX not? The whole game is basically on rails, there are no choices to be taken. Is it the terrible mini-game? Does every RPG need a card-game to get out of the wannabe category? Is it the towns in which you can do nothing but talk to NPCs who say nothing valuable? I thought the thing that made JRPGs qualify as an RPG was the leveling up and the stats building, and as far as I know, both X and XIII has that.
Xen said: It wasn't open to anything because you couldn't do shit in that game but battle until you're tired of it. And FFX2 was a fine homage to the fans of the first game with a terrific battle system and cute cast. I don't get the beef with it.
Someone sounds a bit mad. I was talking about it being open in the sense that you could actually walk places, which you never could in FFX, no matter where in the game you were.
Behold, the glory that is FFX-2:
The day the series lost all of its respect.
Yep, you could walk places. Forward 99% of the time, the other percent divided between left and right. It was a wannabe-RPG on rails.
Also, you rant on about how the series lost all respect and such and such and cherrypick a (rather funny) minigame to prove it and then you call me angry - it's all very ironic and funny and I think I'll fold here since this isn't going anywhere.
Just like FFX, exactly my point.
I've been ranting? I did not notice, I've been mostly just saying my opinion pretty calmly. I would hardly call a rant something that is two lines. It's not cherry picking, it's a clip showing how shameless the series has become, the series has no self-respect and that mini-game is essentially just a pure concentration of what the series has become.
Win by forfeit, heck yeah!
"I was talking about it being open in the sense that you could actually walk places, which you never could in FFX, no matter where in the game you were."
Win by someone self-defeating his own view of the games?
I was talking about the "It's a wannabe-RPG on rails", sir.
FFX has more than a plenty of elements to qualify as an RPG so... it's moot.
Oh? What is it that makes FFXIII "a wannabe-RPG on rails" while FFX not? The whole game is basically on rails, there are no choices to be taken. Is it the terrible mini-game? Does every RPG need a card-game to get out of the wannabe category? Is it the towns in which you can do nothing but talk to NPCs who say nothing valuable? I thought the thing that made JRPGs qualify as an RPG was the leveling up and the stats building, and as far as I know, both X and XIII has that.
Indeed - both FFX and XIII have stat building, BUT:
In FFX, it's a free reign as to how you want to build them up (provided that you get the key spheres - but they are not needed for much other than great abilities or traverse into other parts of the grid, which can be done without them anyway). In FF XIII, it's how the designers want you to build your stats or not at all. Basically, like the whole game, Press X (or A). In FFX, there are 7 stats - strength, magic, magic def, vitality, luck, agility, and evasion, (or 6 - haven't booted up the game myself in a while - evasion may not be there but w/e) creating a nice play field for build up. In XIII, there's predestined allocations of only two - strength+magic. Again, on rails.
In FFX you could modify your grid. In XIII, you can't. You could effectively craft weapons and armor with whatever abilities you wanted. In XIII, all is predestined and almost luck based in the way you get exp (use animal part/some oil, then use electrical conductor and pray). In X, you could take full control of your Aeons and modify all but two (Magus sisters and Yojimbo) with whatever abilties you wanted for them. In XIII, they are both automated and almost useless.
In X, you could do sidequests that (gasp!) didn't involve battling mobs by the request of random stone X on the lifeless bore that was pulse.
