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Seece said:
non-gravity said:
Darth Tigris said:

No, they always specifically said "worldwide".  Emphasized it even.  And it was never stated as a goal, it was stated as volition.  Of course I haven't heard anything since SW Kinect got delayed, which HAS to change projections, right?  Wrong.

August NPD PR (bold mine):

"Xbox 360 maintains its lead over the current-generation console market, selling more units in the U.S. than any other console for 14 of the past 15 months. Sustained consumer demand for Xbox 360 and Kinect have helped the console maintain its number one spot in 2011, proving that consumers continue to recognize the excellent value and amazing games and entertainment experiences delivered by Xbox 360. With an exciting holiday sales season coming up, marked by blockbuster game titles and great new hardware offerings, we continue to expect this to be the biggest year in Xbox history, and the distinction of being this year’s best-selling console worldwide."

So you tell me.  What do they know that we don't, because I personally can't see anything OTHER THAN a price cut possibly doing that?  I'm a 360 fan, but c'mon.


Well haven't they outshipped Sony and Nintendo the first half of the year? 

Eurogamer: So when you say number one you mean sales?

Chris Lewis: I mean purely install base with consumers. We don't count units unless they're actually out there and installed. This isn't shipments. This isn't revenue. This is install base of consoles.

Ah well to Americans US=world so they're bound to be right in some way.



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Reasonable said:
Darth Tigris said:
thismeintiel said:
Darth Tigris said:
Still don't see MS fulfilling the bravado about being #1 worldwide this year without a price cut. The economy is still shaky enough in the US that it won't offset the differential in other regions for the holiday or the rest of the year. A Lego Cowboys & Aliens + Tetris Kinect bundle won't either.

I fully expect them to fall back on "We meant US only."  I mean, they weren't too specific on what region/regions they were talking about IIRC.

No, they always specifically said "worldwide".  Emphasized it even.  And it was never stated as a goal, it was stated as volition.  Of course I haven't heard anything since SW Kinect got delayed, which HAS to change projections, right?  Wrong.

August NPD PR (bold mine):

"Xbox 360 maintains its lead over the current-generation console market, selling more units in the U.S. than any other console for 14 of the past 15 months. Sustained consumer demand for Xbox 360 and Kinect have helped the console maintain its number one spot in 2011, proving that consumers continue to recognize the excellent value and amazing games and entertainment experiences delivered by Xbox 360. With an exciting holiday sales season coming up, marked by blockbuster game titles and great new hardware offerings, we continue to expect this to be the biggest year in Xbox history, and the distinction of being this year’s best-selling console worldwide."

So you tell me.  What do they know that we don't, because I personally can't see anything OTHER THAN a price cut possibly doing that?  I'm a 360 fan, but c'mon.

They could have a variety of strategies in place, ready to escalate depending on sales trends.  For example rather than cut price permenantly they could just offer insane deals that are the equivilent of a huge price cut to drive a big spike for holidays.  They could chanel stuff a bit in addition (they all do at times so this isn't MS only and take this the right way, it's a way companies squeak sales forecasts at times an all electrical goods companies do it) and they could push another huge marketing blitz.  Again, you can force sales with enough marketing and particularly in US that remains an option.

It's going to be interesting to watch unfold, that's for sure.  I have no doubt Sony and Nintendo also have marketing/promotional plans to spike sales so it's going to be a hard fought end of year.

Yep, with another $500M marketing expenditure they should be able to easily sell another 6-8M Kinects (and all the consoles and SW it could drag) before needing to allocate hundreds million $ again for the purpose.



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kowenicki said:
ethomaz said:

reviniente said:

Can't find any info on the Platinum Editon. Is this for Europe only?

Yeap... Europe only... and it already sold out in some online stores in UK (released in 9th September).


really?  who?

The stores I have seen it in all hvae "in stock".

Incidentally what is the usual gap between a regular game and platinum edition for PS3?

I don't know... I just read some UK guy saying that.

I checked the Amazon.co.uk and it was sold out: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gran-Turismo-5-Platinum-PS3/dp/B005LAL2Z6/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1315759080&sr=1-3 (Only 10 left in stock dispatched from and sold by gzoop, not the Amazon).



kowenicki said:

why is everyone selling it at between £14 and £15?    is that the official price.  seems very cheap.

In UK the official price is £19.99... but I saw £15 and £17 already.



ethomaz said:

kowenicki said:

why is everyone selling it at between £14 and £15?    is that the official price.  seems very cheap.

In UK the official price is £19.99... but I saw £15 and £17 already.


Is it already released in the rest of EU? An Italian site accepts preorders at 27.29€, but it says the day one is 28-09-2011. Anyway, even still just in preorder, it's already amongst the best seller racers of that site. http://www.eprice.it/Giochi-di-Guida-SONY/s-3548479



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kowenicki said:
ethomaz said:
kowenicki said:
ethomaz said:

reviniente said:

 Can't find any info on the Platinum Editon. Is this for Europe only?

Yeap... Europe only... and it already sold out in some online stores in UK (released in 9th September).


really?  who?

The stores I have seen it in all hvae "in stock".

Incidentally what is the usual gap between a regular game and platinum edition for PS3?

I don't know... I just read some UK guy saying that.

I checked the Amazon.co.uk and it was sold out: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gran-Turismo-5-Platinum-PS3/dp/B005LAL2Z6/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1315759080&sr=1-3 (Only 10 left in stock dispatched from and sold by gzoop, not the Amazon).

why is everyone selling it at between £14 and £15?    is that the official price.  seems very cheap.


I think RRP for Platinum games is normally around £19.99 with a lot of online retailers chipping that down to £15 to £17.  That's been my impression anyway from the platinum titles I've bought.  I think I've seen some platinum titles at £25.99 as well.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

Sweet, wii still at 3rd place and losing marketshare. I love it.



Seece said:
sebzhd said:
PS3 will kill X360 worldwide this year (kill yet Europe and Japan) with or without box pric cut, forza 4 will be under GT5 sales, gears 3 and MW ok but no exclusive M$ will change that.
PS3 is going to win this HD gen war, PS3 has 6 years live left, not xbox.
Sorry M$.

Love that some of the posts on this site have dropped to this level of quality, just great.



Dude, look at the number of posts he has lol. I honestly don't know which way it goes this year because 360 and PS3 both have huge value for money. In the US it will depend on who appeals more to the casuals, or how good word of mouth is. In past years many people bought 360's because their friends had it, not necessarily because it was value for money (that is arguable of course for either side). Either way I hope all systems sell along with hardware as they have put some real effort into their consoles (yea I know, I didn't include the Wii for obvious reasons, unless Skyward Sword is at least as good as Majora's Mask).

Make games, not war (that goes for ridiculous fanboys)

I may be the next Maelstorm or not, you be the judge http://videogamesgrow.blogspot.com/  hopefully I can be more of an asset than a fanboy to VGC hehe.

OMG PS3 kills everything Week 36 in Japan:

Soft:
Tales of Xillia - PS3 525.605
Resident Evil: Revival Selection - PS3 93.768
Resistance 3 - PS3 20.342
Monster Hunter Freedom 3 HD Ver. - PS3 20.162
Grand Knights History - PSP 19.712
Super Sentai Battle: Ranger Cross - Wii 16.457
Rhythm Heaven - Wii 15.600
Hot Shots Golf 5 - PS3 12.357
Kirby Mass Attack - DS 11.240
Wii Sports Resort with Remote Plus - Wii 10.324

Hard:
PS3 – 64,786
3DS – 49,076
PSP – 25,404
Wii – 10,743
DS – 4,890
PS2 – 1,386
Xbox 360 – 1,219

 

Sorry M$, once again PS2 yes PS2 is above.