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Biddlesworth said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Biddlesworth said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Biddlesworth said:

Most straight men hate gay people thats a fact everyone knows, they would never want to have a gay persons blood inside them. If they were given the choice they would all pick to have a straight persons blood over a gays.

And who wouldnt god knows what diseases they have. Id never trust my life to it.

You should research the definition of fact.

If you think gays arent hated by the vast majority of straight people then you're either in denial or a proud gay yourself. No straight person that i have ever known wants anything to do with gay people, neither do most straight people why would they?

In media they are always portrayed as comic relief for the straight man to laugh at, because they dont respect gays they just laugh and ridicule them. This is how it is whether you like it or not.

Okay now research the definition of delusional.

"suffering from or characterized by delusions"

Which would be what you have if you even thought for a second gays werent hated by most people.

I know tons of straight people and none of them hate me for being gay. Many of the most appreciated posters on this site are gay. Most people don't care about sexual orientation.



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TruckOSaurus said:
Biddlesworth said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Biddlesworth said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Biddlesworth said:

Most straight men hate gay people thats a fact everyone knows, they would never want to have a gay persons blood inside them. If they were given the choice they would all pick to have a straight persons blood over a gays.

And who wouldnt god knows what diseases they have. Id never trust my life to it.

You should research the definition of fact.

If you think gays arent hated by the vast majority of straight people then you're either in denial or a proud gay yourself. No straight person that i have ever known wants anything to do with gay people, neither do most straight people why would they?

In media they are always portrayed as comic relief for the straight man to laugh at, because they dont respect gays they just laugh and ridicule them. This is how it is whether you like it or not.

Okay now research the definition of delusional.

"suffering from or characterized by delusions"

Which would be what you have if you even thought for a second gays werent hated by most people.

I know tons of straight people and none of them hate me for being gay. Many of the most appreciated posters on this site are gay. Most people don't care about sexual orientation.

Yeah you believe that, how people act and what they think are completley different. My friends cant stand gays but would never openly insult one to their face. People always pretend to be politically correct in public.

Everyone cares about sexual orientation, like i said if youre gay you wont have the same way of thinking as the majority because you arent in the same position.



sapphi_snake said:
Rath said:
sapphi_snake said:
WOW, sure took them long enough.


Well it's not really a case of discrimination here, the science actually supported this ban for a while and still supports a ban for a year after gay sex. HIV in blood is very much a worry.

Aren't they supposed to test the blood anyways? Honestly, this seems like racial profiling, only even more stupid.

no... in terms of HIV and AIDS the way that they test for the virus is to observe the effects it has on the body ( lowered white blood cell count )... i'm not sure if you've realised yet but this isn't a very effective method of testing for someone who hasn't had the virus for a very long period of time ( because the effects of the virus take a while to show up )

add to that the fact that anal sex transmits the virus far more easily than other types of sex and you have the reason for measures like these being in place



Player1x3 said:

He cant, because that would mean he would have to acknowledge the fact that hetrosexuality and hetrosexuals have in some way, shape or form an natural advantage or benefit, or even improvment compared to homosexuals, and I guess that makes him very angry for some reason, despite that HIV being more common to gays is a long proven scientific, medical and biological fact. Let alone, that this is only to insure safety and well being of people who need blood to stay alive, gays are not to be ''discriminated'' just because thousands of people can get HIV and die painful and slow death

No, I would not have to acknoledge that in any shape or form, so stop having a wet dream, or whatever you're experiencing.



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Biddlesworth said:
TruckOSaurus said:

I know tons of straight people and none of them hate me for being gay. Many of the most appreciated posters on this site are gay. Most people don't care about sexual orientation.

Yeah you believe that, how people act and what they think are completley different. My friends cant stand gays but would never openly insult one to their face. People always pretend to be politically correct in public.

Everyone cares about sexual orientation, like i said if youre gay you wont have the same way of thinking as the majority because you arent in the same position.

You have opened my eyes! Thank you! I never realized before that everyone in my life hates me but they all pretend to like me for the sake of political correctness. It's all so clear to me now!



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TruckOSaurus said:
Biddlesworth said:
TruckOSaurus said:

I know tons of straight people and none of them hate me for being gay. Many of the most appreciated posters on this site are gay. Most people don't care about sexual orientation.

Yeah you believe that, how people act and what they think are completley different. My friends cant stand gays but would never openly insult one to their face. People always pretend to be politically correct in public.

Everyone cares about sexual orientation, like i said if youre gay you wont have the same way of thinking as the majority because you arent in the same position.

You have opened my eyes! Thank you! I never realized before that everyone in my life hates me but they all pretend to like me for the sake of political correctness. It's all so clear to me now!

You can be sarcastic as you want, but you bet theres people who act fine around you but laugh at you behind your back for what you are. Straight men will never be able to accept gay men.



Joelcool7 said:

Honestly I think their should be a minimum of a year to two years between having sex with a different male partner and donating blood. With HIV being so high amongst gay couples I think that laxing the laws to much only jeoprodizes public safety.

Also I think similiar laws should be applied to straight men as well. If a guy is sleeping with a different girl every week then the chances of getting infected are huge. That man should not be able to donate blood until he has had at least a year with one girl. Insuring that he doesn't have aids.

I think a major reason for the height of homosexual HIV is the promiscuity. I know a few gay guys and they have sex with different partners constantly. They have orgies and all kinds of shit. But the straight people I know, I don't know any that have sex nearly as much as those gay guys or with as many partners.

My most promiscusios friend (Straight) probably had sex with 2 to 3 different girls a month. At least thats what he bragged constantly who knows could have been less. While one of the gay guys I know talks about having sex with different guys all the time. Even here in this thread a gay guy said he was having sex with a different person every few days. That is just sick, no I don't know any straight guys who have sex with that many women.

However tides are beginning to change. Straight people are beginning to fuck more and more. Fewer marriages more one night stands and screwing multiple girls a year. Hence the rise in straight HIV, however it is still far smaller then homosexual HIV. But can't be ignored.

As such I think if you are outside of a dedicated relationship (Sleeping with someone new within the past year) then you should not be able to give blood. Your blood could be contaminated and infecting some poor innocent person is a horrible thing to do just because you want the equal right to give blood.

I haven't been allowed to donate blood for years due to being on medication. You don't see me getting pissed off, I know that my blood is contaminated and could harm people. As such homosexuals and men who screw multiple girls a year should not be allowed to donate either. Safety first.

This isn't an issue of rights, its an issue of safety. Blood banks are supposed to save lives not end them!


wrong its that anal sex itself has a higher risk of blood transfusion than other types because the anal lining is more susceptible to damage... your tirade on gay promiscuity and promiscuity in general was not needed



Biddlesworth said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Biddlesworth said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Biddlesworth said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Biddlesworth said:

Most straight men hate gay people thats a fact everyone knows, they would never want to have a gay persons blood inside them. If they were given the choice they would all pick to have a straight persons blood over a gays.

And who wouldnt god knows what diseases they have. Id never trust my life to it.

You should research the definition of fact.

If you think gays arent hated by the vast majority of straight people then you're either in denial or a proud gay yourself. No straight person that i have ever known wants anything to do with gay people, neither do most straight people why would they?

In media they are always portrayed as comic relief for the straight man to laugh at, because they dont respect gays they just laugh and ridicule them. This is how it is whether you like it or not.

Okay now research the definition of delusional.

"suffering from or characterized by delusions"

Which would be what you have if you even thought for a second gays werent hated by most people.

I know tons of straight people and none of them hate me for being gay. Many of the most appreciated posters on this site are gay. Most people don't care about sexual orientation.

Yeah you believe that, how people act and what they think are completley different. My friends cant stand gays but would never openly insult one to their face. People always pretend to be politically correct in public.

Everyone cares about sexual orientation, like i said if youre gay you wont have the same way of thinking as the majority because you arent in the same position.


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sapphi_snake said:
Marks said:
I would laugh in the face of anyone who says that this policy was homophobic. It doesn't make sense now because I'm sure there are high tech/accurate screening methods for HIV/AIDS in the blood they get...but back in the 80's when they made this rule they didn't have accurate methods to detect AIDS. It was to protect the public, not to discriminate.

US Airport Security strip-searching every person they see with a turban is discrimination...this policy wasn't.

Back in the 80s they labeled AIDS a 'gay disease', which is one of the main reasons why it took so long for action to be taken against it ('who cares about the gays? It's great that there's this disease whiping them out!'), and it spread as much as it did (affecting everyone, reagrdless of sexual orientation).

AIDS was labelled a gay disease with good reason... it was spread more rapidly by gays than any other demographic hence the label



ps3_jrpg_gamer said:
This is because transmission rates are higher for anal sex than they are for vaginal sex
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/09/070913132930.htm


this... the ignorance in this thread about this fact is alarming