5551 posts since 17/11/08
trashleg on 08 September 2011
sapphi_snake said:
The reason why you can't give blood is because your blood is no good. That's not discrimination, as it's not based on an alleged possibility (i.e. 'your blood may not be good, because you're gay and everyone knows that AIDS is a gay disease').
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I know.
But at the time that these rules were put in place, AIDS was booming and it WAS, statistically and factually, prevalent in homosexual men. Not much was known about the HIV virus, and rather than having expensive, lengthy tests and screens of the blood, it was more efficient to just refuse the blood.
They weren't doing it out of spite, I think that's what you need to realise.
Highwaystar101 said: trashleg said that if I didn't pay back the money she leant me, she would come round and break my legs... That's why people call her trashleg, because she trashes the legs of the people she loan sharks money to.
5551 posts since 17/11/08
trashleg on 08 September 2011
Silver-Tiger said: Wait, WHAT? There was actually a ban on gay blood?! Unbelievable. And that in such a highly developed country. There are standard tests on blood for HIV and other deseases anyway, why do they make a difference when the blood is from homosexual people? |
It's one category amongst many that can't give blood - anaemics, people who've been ill in a foreign country in the last 6 months, men who've had sex with men, women who've had sex with men who've had sex with men, people who weigh under 8st.
You have to bear in mind that when HIV was BOOMING, along the same time that science was developing and the health service improving, not much was known about it - and it is still an incurable virus. As it was statistically more prevalent amongst homosexuals, it was a precautionary measure - due to "lying times", during which the HIV could not be detected, and general lack of information about it.
It's not that they refused it out of principle or anything. I don't think it makes sense to argue with a decision that was made to protect people.
Highwaystar101 said: trashleg said that if I didn't pay back the money she leant me, she would come round and break my legs... That's why people call her trashleg, because she trashes the legs of the people she loan sharks money to.
5551 posts since 17/11/08
trashleg on 08 September 2011
MrBubbles said:
additionally the laws are stupid. because anyone can just lie about their sexual activity when giving blood. and those most at risk are the "straight" guys, the kinds that oppress and deny themselves, then end up in risky situations like having sex in public bathrooms or parks. the kinds that also arent likely to admit they fuck guys and perhaps even would use the blood donation system to secretly get themselves then tested. how do these laws protect against these people? people in this thread are talking like every third gay person has aids and they all get together for giant community orgies every weekend. im sure that stds are of greater concern to the average sexually active homosexual than they are to the average sexually active heterosexual who almost always only use a condom to prevent pregnancy. and last i saw about STD rates in the US they were most prevalent among straight young black women. so i guess we should just ban black people as well. at least they cant lie about that one.
the system doesnt get enough donations to just exclude perfectly perfectly healthy responsible people.
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The laws are outdated, yes. Stupid, not at the time they were written.
And there are clinics where the men you speak of can get tested for free, and in secret too.
Highwaystar101 said: trashleg said that if I didn't pay back the money she leant me, she would come round and break my legs... That's why people call her trashleg, because she trashes the legs of the people she loan sharks money to.