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Can Disney beat Universal's record 2015 domestic gross - $2.445 billion?

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Lawlight said:
Chris Hu said:
Runa216 said:
Lawlight said:


I know you're posting in jest but just google it - 2.5 times is what is needed on average.


What?  No, I used to be a part of a group of industry insiders. I heard dozens of people saying the average was 1.81.  For movies like Avengers, 2.5 is a good bet, indies only need to make like 1.5, but the average was 1.81. I just assume that's what all need, since it's easier than factoring in a 300 million dollar marketing budget.  

I don't think any movie has come close to having a 300 million dollar marketing budget as a matter of fact a lot of big budget movies get free marketing and advertising by having cross promotion deals with products that are featured in that movie. 


The Amazing Spider-Man 2 had a marketing budget of $180M-$190M. Not sure where you got the idea that big budget movies don't have to pay for marketing.

I'm not saying they don't have to pay for marketing I'm just saying they are getting a lot of free marketing and advertising by doing cross promotions with other companies the most recent example is the cross promotion Audi had with Avengers 2.   That cross promotion started before trailers for Avengers 2 first started to show up on television.



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Hollywood accounting and these supposed budgets are usually bull sh*t. I wouldn't buy too much into it, see:

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121018/01054720744/hollywood-accounting-how-19-million-movie-makes-150-million-still-isnt-profitable.shtml



Soundwave said:
Hollywood accounting and these supposed budgets are usually bull sh*t. I wouldn't buy too much into it, see:

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121018/01054720744/hollywood-accounting-how-19-million-movie-makes-150-million-still-isnt-profitable.shtml


We're not talking about Hollywood accounting here but about what would, for example, warrant that a movie gets a sequel.



Chris Hu said:
Runa216 said:
Lawlight said:


I know you're posting in jest but just google it - 2.5 times is what is needed on average.


What?  No, I used to be a part of a group of industry insiders. I heard dozens of people saying the average was 1.81.  For movies like Avengers, 2.5 is a good bet, indies only need to make like 1.5, but the average was 1.81. I just assume that's what all need, since it's easier than factoring in a 300 million dollar marketing budget.  

I don't think any movie has come close to having a 300 million dollar marketing budget as a matter of fact a lot of big budget movies get free marketing and advertising by having cross promotion deals with products that are featured in that movie. 

Avatar.



Avengers was expected to do a lot more on domestic and now it is faring lesser then TDKR on daily gross basis. It's lucky it opened well enough even when it was struck by Mayweather- Pacquio. Otherwise it would have ended up grossing lesser than TDKR on domestic.



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Ari_Gold said:
I feel Entourage is going to bomb hard. Not even I can save it.

Looks like Entourage will drop a lot over the weekend compared to its opening day still think it will make more the enough to not bomb hard.  To me a movie bombs hard if it makes less then its budget world wide.



Less then $9 million to go before Furious 7 passes the first Avengers movie should happen in three to four weeks.



Chris Hu said:
Less then $9 million to go before Furious 7 passes the first Avengers movie should happen in three to four weeks.

It won't happen. The movie only grossed $2M worldwide this past week-end. In 3-4 weeks, its run will stop.



Lawlight said:
Chris Hu said:
Less then $9 million to go before Furious 7 passes the first Avengers movie should happen in three to four weeks.

It won't happen. The movie only grossed $2M worldwide this past week-end. In 3-4 weeks, its run will stop.


Unless Universal does a re-release for the film.



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Lawlight said:
Chris Hu said:
Less then $9 million to go before Furious 7 passes the first Avengers movie should happen in three to four weeks.

It won't happen. The movie only grossed $2M worldwide this past week-end. In 3-4 weeks, its run will stop.


Not really it still hasn't had it discount theater run.  Plus it still doesn't have a firm release date for the Blu ray and DVD it will be in theaters longer then another 3-4 weeks.