padib said:
oniyide said:
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oniyide said:
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M.U.G.E.N said:
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M.U.G.E.N said:
first off you say you won't go off topic..but doing just that
second of course not..heck GT can't be even run on the wii..heck at least use a similar game/genre/sales potential
third if you for a second think DQX wouldn't have done well on ps3 you are being delusional..the system is doing really well on RPG sales front and has much better momentum currently than the wii in Japan
fourth, as I have said so many times already, I doubt any of you can come up with a proper decent argument against why DQX should have gone multiplat with the ps3..ps3 can more than handle the games visuals, it's already being developed for wiiu so dev time is not the concern either and ps3 has a really good rpg fanbase and selling really well currently. this only benefits ninty and they obviously money hatted the project hence the current result. am I angry about it? hell no...the only RPG's I've enjoyed this gen are Valkyria chronicles/Demon Souls/PSP FF games. the best approach for better sales would have been to go multi with ps3 or handhelds or both.
you know what, better than going off topic here why don't you make a thread about this? and actually put some decent arguments as why my opinion is wrong in your view and we can really have a good discussion. you can even quote this answer in it to kick things off
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Don't make a thread, chances are it'll just turn into the carnival of stupid. DQ X would sell well on pretty much any platform, it's DQ. DQ also isn't known for multiplat anyway...yes it's coming to the WIi U as well, but rather as a port, it's more like an extension to the Wii getting it since you can even use the same profile on both consoles. Clearly there's a deal between NIntendo and SE with the series right now. But that's just the way it is.
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which is pretty much the reality of it and is what I said. the only thing is tho doesn't matter if it a port or not since most multiplats are ported over from the lead platform afaik, wii/wiiu IS going multiplatform by definition. it's like ps3/vita games...connected but two platforms.
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In my view, the exclusivity of a game holds a sense of prestige. I believe Final Fantasy lost that in my eyes after Final Fantasy XIII. I think it's a good thing for games like this to remain exclusive to a console, as it's usually the community that drives the game, and if that community also feels that sense of prestige they will drive the game forwards. It happened with Final Fantasy in the Nintendo days (as well as with Megaman, Castlevania and others), it happened alot in the Playstation 1 days (Metal Gear Solid, FFVII, Megaman Xs V onward, ...), and it shouldn't stop. It shouldn't be there for everything, but I think that for prestigious games like Final Fantasy, DQ and Monster Hunter it should remain.
And I know you agree with me seeing your enthusiasm for all the exclusives in the Vita thread (which I have been participating in).
Also, Vita/PS3 or Wii/WiiU, though technically multiplatform, in my eyes does not enter the above discussion in relevancy in any way.
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if what you say is true, then why did FF7 have such record numbers?? Despite the series being on Ninty systems for 2 gens?? I disagree respectfully, most people will go where the games are, no matter what console
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Good question. To be honest it's because FF7 was a revolutionary game on a revolutionary console (Playstation), and that it was able to take advantage of all those revolutionary features the PS supported (FMV playback, orchestral audio, movie-like production thanks to support from media giant Sony).
I believe, true to what I'm proporting, that indeed FF7 would have been less of a success had it been multi-plat.
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Well to be fair, FF 7 WAS multiplat. There was a PC version that released later, dont know how well that did. If your talking N64, that version would have sucked because it would have lacked the features you already mention, plus N64 has a smaller user base than PS, so people would still just buy the PS version and it would have sole the same IMHO
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You're absoltely right about the PC version (that's the version I played). But to be honest it isn't relevant to the prestige argument because PC's were not considered segregated as much as Nintendo and Sony platforms were at the time. We're going back deep but I think we both remember.
Add to that the political implications of working with both Manufacturers (and sponsors) at that time and FFVII would have ended a disaster. I mean, a different time with different factors, but in general I believe my point still stands to some degree. At least a great majority of PS fans were enthusiastic about the game given its exclusivity (that I remember strongly) the same could be said about MGS. That enthusiasm would have been greatly diminished given the offering of that game on the other system, even if both systems were on par technically. I may be wrong but that's just how I see it. The enthusiasm at least would have diminished, as it is today for most multiplats.
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