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The PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 will be around for "quite some time", mega publisher EA has said.

Both consoles remain "technologically advanced" despite having been on the market for half a decade, EA's European boss Jens Uwe Intat told Eurogamer.

"All three first party manufacturers do have interesting platforms out there," he replied when Eurogamer asked for his assessment of the current generation of hardware.

"360 certainly will be around for quite some time. As will the PS3. The PS3 with the price drop should hopefully get some acceleration for the Christmas business.

"The Wii U is certainly a platform we like and will support going forward."

Microsoft is rumoured to be preparing to launch its new Xbox in 2013, with a reported E3 2012 announcement planned.

Sony has insisted its focus is on the PS3, which recently enjoyed a price cut, and the PS Vita, due out in Europe early next year.

Nintendo has shown its hand with the Wii U, scheduled for release next year.

"All I can say is we do see healthy sales of hardware," Uwe Intat said on the next generation issue.

"We do see healthy sales of software into those existing hardware platforms. It's the first-parties you have to discuss with when a, they think they can afford to come out with a new platform, but even more important, b, when they think a new platform will really offer something meaningful to the consumer.

"The existing generation of consoles is actually technologically very advanced. They're still very capable machines. It's their call."

Uwe Intat's claim about the power of the current generation of consoles comes despite the call from a number of developers for more RAM to help create games.

But it does tally with comments made by Sony's worldwide studios boss Shuhei Yoshida, who told Eurogamer that the PlayStation 3 manufacturer will launch its next generation home console when developers are unable to improve the games they make.

When that happens, Sony will have to "seriously consider" launching the PlayStation 4, Yoshida said.

Meanwhile, Uwe Intat gave Sony's PlayStation 3 price-cut, announced at Gamescom last week, the EA blessing.

"For us it's nice," he said. "The cheaper the hardware gets the more people buy hardware, the more money people have left to buy software. So it's generally a good thing.

"Retailers are out there to judge whether it's a good price point or not, but lower is always better.

"Overall it has never been more interesting times for the consumer in terms of how many different ways there are to play games. At the core the consoles are somewhat similar, but the whole value proposition of an Xbox versus a PS3 is already very different, versus a Wii and a Wii U is different. Not only do you have different interfaces but you also have different online concepts.

"Also, all the other devices you can play games on today, I find it fascinating. It's just amazing."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-08-23-ea-xbox-360-ps3-still-very-capable



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And this is why Sony/MS wont need to launch a new console, just because Nintendo are.



                            

Yes,yes.We've had this thread for at least 10 times in the past month.We get it.We won't see the next consoles any time soon.You don't have to repeat it,just because another guy from another company says it.



kowenicki said:

they dont need to launch purely because they are capable?

not so

a capable machine that isnt selling well enough will be replaced.


Sales come from continued good support and a healthy pricepoint.

PS3 and 360 both have these 2 points locked down. With the Wii U not being oh so more powerful than the current HD consoles, continued support is guaranteed unless Nintendo decide to moneyhat every big franchise.

As for the current sales, let's compare it to last gen. This time 6 Years ago (5 Years into the Gen), the Gamecube and the Xbox sold 21000 and 65000 units WW respectively. This time 5 Years ago (6 Years in), GC and XB sold 16000 and 4000 units respectively. PS2 sold 183000 units. In 2005, the Xbox sold 3.6 Million units. The 360 will breeze that in America alone this Year. The GC sold 2.7 Million units. Yeah.

Both PS3 and 360 are selling extremely well. The gap in next gen tech isn't too big at all, when compared to the leap between PS2 to HD consoles. MS are getting massive profits, Sony WANT profits. Both machines are getting continued strong support from 1st, 2nd and 3rd parties.

There is no reason at all for Sony or MS to launch a new console in the next Year or 2 IMO. No reason at all.



                            

Finally, someone who realises that we don't need to start the next generation yet.

I was getting sick to death of lazy developers complaining that consoles aren't as good as $1,000 PC's, they are complaining because they know other developers can produce far better results on limited hardware.



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kowenicki said:
Carl2291 said:
And this is why Sony/MS wont need to launch a new console, just because Nintendo are.


they dont need to launch purely because they are capable?

not so

a capable machine that isnt selling well enough will be replaced.

correct me if i'm wrong but ps3 and 360 have both been up YoY every single year since launch.  with the ps3 pricecut just hitting and a 360 price-cut at least possible i'd say there are at least even odds up both being up YoY yet again.  until they take a downturn YoY we aren't over with this gen.  and like carl said, the wii U is bound to extend this gen even further since it appears to be close in power to the ps360.



kowenicki said:
kitler53 said:
kowenicki said:
Carl2291 said:
And this is why Sony/MS wont need to launch a new console, just because Nintendo are.


they dont need to launch purely because they are capable?

not so

a capable machine that isnt selling well enough will be replaced.

correct me if i'm wrong but ps3 and 360 have both been up YoY every single year since launch.  with the ps3 pricecut just hitting and a 360 price-cut at least possible i'd say there are at least even odds up both being up YoY yet again.  until they take a downturn YoY we aren't over with this gen.  and like carl said, the wii U is bound to extend this gen even further since it appears to be close in power to the ps360.


Where does it say I dont agree with that, where did I say sales werent good enough. The article is trying to say there is no need for a replacement purely because the hardware has capability untapped.  It isnt the devleopers who decide this, it isnt even the manufacurers... its the consumers.  If they stop buying console x then console y will soon follow.

All I said was that being capable alone is not enough, the fact that there is hardware capability is secondary to sales numbers. 

If the sales numbers are good enough, a point you alude to, then yes there is no need to launch yet.

But if sales were poor and the harware still had room left, it wouldnt matter, a new machine would come.

yeah, no.  after posting i saw your second reply to carl to which i realised that wasn't the point you were making.  the bolded just implied to me that sales we're high enough, might have also been influenced of the YoY posts you make in the sales threads calling out the current bad trends.



My grandfather is also still very capable, yet I wouldn't take him out go karting anymore.
Come on memory limitations are seriously starting to hold things back.
Please not 3 more years of struggling to meet 720p, 30fps, lengthy installs and loading times.
At least there's no reason to look into a 3dtv until then.



Bristow9091 said:
This guy is right, I mean, the only reason fans cry out for new consoles is because they see their favourite multiplatform game being played on a high end gaming PC and realise it looks better, however, they don't realise that games releasing on PS3/360 still look miles ahead of what the majority of PC owners games will look like, they're still releasing some really beautiful games on consoles, and to be honest, I'm not ready for a new console yet anyway, especially when you think about all the offerings the current gen is giving us in the months/years to come.

Then again, he isn't talking about the fans, but I thought I'd give my two cents on that, as for the developers, they're saying that the current gen specs aren't high enough for what they want, but they should think of it as a challenge, squeeze as much out of it as they can, it's up to them to make companies like Sony get to work on a new Playstation, Sony have said that they'll make a new console when the PS3 has reached its limit, so it's up to the developers to push that limit, if they spent more time doing that instead of whinging about it, then maybe we'd see new hardware out within the next few years.

so confirmedz PS4 releases day after Uncharted 3 comes out?



SvennoJ said:
My grandfather is also still very capable, yet I wouldn't take him out go karting anymore.
Come on memory limitations are seriously starting to hold things back.
Please not 3 more years of struggling to meet 720p, 30fps, lengthy installs and loading times.
At least there's no reason to look into a 3dtv until then.

arent you forgeting something.... Uncharted 1, 2, 3, Killzone 3, and GOWIII, all 720p, with rock solid framerates, no installs, no loading times, all show cases for graphics