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MARCUSDJACKSON on 22 August 2011

PC gaming is where it all started, and PC's will always be around. we'd have to have PC's fail a gen or 2 before saying PC gaming is dead.

the ease of making games on PC alone makes the statement false



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Xen on 22 August 2011
pezus said:
Xen said:
pezus said:
Xen said:
Scoobes said:
Xen said:
Fantastic.
Now show me an awesome exclusive PC title that is not an indie game.
Aw, shit, got none.

Sure it's not dead, but console gaming these days is ways better.

Starcraft 2? Crysis? Age of Empires Online? The Witcher 1 & 2? About 90% of MMOs?

You might as well include Team Fortress 2, Oblivion and Fallout 3 considerring how much updates and mods have changed the core gameplay experience.

Crysis (1) will be out on consoles.

TW2 will be on 360 soon. They were gonna port TW1 but decided against it since they don't wanna half-ass it.

Never heard a thing about AoE online, and I dislike MMO's wherever they may be. How much of them are notable, anyway? Wow, the old republic, lineage 2, aion, and eve. Can't think of anything else.

You'd do bad to include multiplats with good mods - that's all they are, multiplats. They are almost always better on PC and the almost sole reason to own a gaming PC.

Starcraft 2 is great though ;)

The almost sole reason to own a gaming PC? And why won't you count indie games? Many of them are awesome and exclusive to the PC.

Because they are not at large. The stance "PC gaming is dead" is mainly the stance of the developers rather than the gamers, and the devs mainly don't make PC exclusives. Indie stuff is so there and so dominant because the PC is simple put the best platform to develop for if you want to do it cheaply and effectively - no devkits to buy, no licenses and fees to pay.

And yeah, the near-sole reason to own a gaming PC.

So you don't count MMO's, Indie games, games that are miles better on PC and what else? Strategy games? Dota-type games? All of this makes PC-gaming very worthwile to me. I'm beginning to play consoles less and less and PC more and more largely thanks to Steam and its discounts. Not to mention all of the emulators you can use if you so wish (to play PS1, Nes, GB, Wii, GC, PS2 games and so on).

Of course I don't count games that are miles better on PC. I said exclusives. Nice condescending statement after that though ;)

Emulators are the rest of the reason to own a gaming PC, good mention. 



Xen on 22 August 2011
pezus said:
Xen said:
pezus said:
Xen said:
pezus said:
Xen said:
Scoobes said:
Xen said:
Fantastic.
Now show me an awesome exclusive PC title that is not an indie game.
Aw, shit, got none.

Sure it's not dead, but console gaming these days is ways better.

Starcraft 2? Crysis? Age of Empires Online? The Witcher 1 & 2? About 90% of MMOs?

You might as well include Team Fortress 2, Oblivion and Fallout 3 considerring how much updates and mods have changed the core gameplay experience.

Crysis (1) will be out on consoles.

TW2 will be on 360 soon. They were gonna port TW1 but decided against it since they don't wanna half-ass it.

Never heard a thing about AoE online, and I dislike MMO's wherever they may be. How much of them are notable, anyway? Wow, the old republic, lineage 2, aion, and eve. Can't think of anything else.

You'd do bad to include multiplats with good mods - that's all they are, multiplats. They are almost always better on PC and the almost sole reason to own a gaming PC.

Starcraft 2 is great though ;)

The almost sole reason to own a gaming PC? And why won't you count indie games? Many of them are awesome and exclusive to the PC.

Because they are not at large. The stance "PC gaming is dead" is mainly the stance of the developers rather than the gamers, and the devs mainly don't make PC exclusives. Indie stuff is so there and so dominant because the PC is simple put the best platform to develop for if you want to do it cheaply and effectively - no devkits to buy, no licenses and fees to pay.

And yeah, the near-sole reason to own a gaming PC.

So you don't count MMO's, Indie games, games that are miles better on PC and what else? Strategy games? Dota-type games? All of this makes PC-gaming very worthwile to me. I'm beginning to play consoles less and less and PC more and more largely thanks to Steam and its discounts. Not to mention all of the emulators you can use if you so wish (to play PS1, Nes, GB, Wii, GC, PS2 games and so on).

Of course I don't count games that are miles better on PC. I said exclusives. Nice condescending statement after that though ;)

Emulators are the rest of the reason to own a gaming PC, good mention. 

What is so condescending? You should really look at what you were saying before...

"Now show me an awesome exclusive PC title that is not an indie game.
Aw, shit, got none."  We mentioned many PC exclusives

"And yeah, the near-sole reason to own a gaming PC." If this is what you really think I'm not going to argue with you anymore. You should try gaming on a PC some time.

All I got from this is MMO's, 3 exclusives, some indie games (lots of which are on XBLA, PSN, and WiiWare, anyway) and superior multiplats. Nice job! Your condescence was in asking me what was I gonna say next.

I did try gaming on a PC. But its only advantages vs a console is in pushing better graphics and framerate and having better controls in shooters.



Xen on 22 August 2011

"All" this?
If you compare it to a console, it's nothing.



vlad321 on 22 August 2011

Idiots say PC gaming is dead. Idiots, retards, and/or ignorant fools. There, I said it.

(Hell, I'm not even talking quality of genres here).



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zarx on 23 August 2011
Xen said:
Fantastic.
Now show me an awesome exclusive PC title that is not an indie game.
Aw, shit, got none.

Sure it's not dead, but console gaming these days is ways better.


Satarcraft 2, Total war: Shogun 2, Guild wars 2, Dawn of War 2, Might and Magic Heroes VI, DOTA 2, King Arthur II, Anno 2070, Diablo 3  (for now), Forged by Chaos, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Neverwinter, Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad (you may ague it's kinda indie but they are a decent size studio now), Firefall, Planetside Next, Warface, Trackmania 2: Canyon, X Rebirth, Take on Helicopters, Microsoft Flight, ARMA 3. 

All recent or upcoming PC exclusive games 

Then there are the games that are indie but offer gameplay and/or production values and/or content that rivel full games like Confrontation, Hard Reset, Dungeons, Pirates of the Black Cove, Stronghold 3, Men of War: Vietnam , Drakensang: The River of Time, North Star, Torchlight II, Iron Front, Natural Selection 2, CHIVALRY: Battle for Agatha, The Spire, Naumachia – Space Warfare, E.Y.E, Steel Armor:Blaze of War, Sengoku.

And then the cross platform games that offer exclusive content or features like Battlefeild 3 and 64 player multiplayer.



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Alby_da_Wolf on 23 August 2011

Indies, exclusives and even whole genres that are almost PC exclusives, not to mention features that are standard in PC games and removed or made pay ones in consoles. I call downplaying or pretending to ignore all this sour grapes.



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Xen on 23 August 2011
zarx said:
Xen said:
Fantastic.
Now show me an awesome exclusive PC title that is not an indie game.
Aw, shit, got none.

Sure it's not dead, but console gaming these days is ways better.


Satarcraft 2, Total war: Shogun 2, Guild wars 2, Dawn of War 2, Might and Magic Heroes VI, DOTA 2, King Arthur II, Anno 2070, Diablo 3  (for now), Forged by Chaos, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Neverwinter, Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad (you may ague it's kinda indie but they are a decent size studio now), Firefall, Planetside Next, Warface, Trackmania 2: Canyon, X Rebirth, Take on Helicopters, Microsoft Flight, ARMA 3.

All recent or upcoming PC exclusive games

Then there are the games that are indie but offer gameplay and/or production values and/or content that rivel full games like Confrontation, Hard Reset, Dungeons, Pirates of the Black Cove, Stronghold 3, Men of War: Vietnam , Drakensang: The River of Time, North Star, Torchlight II, Iron Front, Natural Selection 2, CHIVALRY: Battle for Agatha, The Spire, Naumachia – Space Warfare, E.Y.E, Steel Armor:Blaze of War, Sengoku.

And then the cross platform games that offer exclusive content or features like Battlefeild 3 and 64 player multiplayer.

Now that actually manages to disprove me. I accept ignorance in some titles there.

Lol @ everyone else though.



Scoobes on 23 August 2011
Xen said:
zarx said:
Xen said:
Fantastic.
Now show me an awesome exclusive PC title that is not an indie game.
Aw, shit, got none.

Sure it's not dead, but console gaming these days is ways better.


Satarcraft 2, Total war: Shogun 2, Guild wars 2, Dawn of War 2, Might and Magic Heroes VI, DOTA 2, King Arthur II, Anno 2070, Diablo 3  (for now), Forged by Chaos, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Neverwinter, Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad (you may ague it's kinda indie but they are a decent size studio now), Firefall, Planetside Next, Warface, Trackmania 2: Canyon, X Rebirth, Take on Helicopters, Microsoft Flight, ARMA 3.

All recent or upcoming PC exclusive games

Then there are the games that are indie but offer gameplay and/or production values and/or content that rivel full games like Confrontation, Hard Reset, Dungeons, Pirates of the Black Cove, Stronghold 3, Men of War: Vietnam , Drakensang: The River of Time, North Star, Torchlight II, Iron Front, Natural Selection 2, CHIVALRY: Battle for Agatha, The Spire, Naumachia – Space Warfare, E.Y.E, Steel Armor:Blaze of War, Sengoku.

And then the cross platform games that offer exclusive content or features like Battlefeild 3 and 64 player multiplayer.

Now that actually manages to disprove me. I accept ignorance in some titles there.

Lol @ everyone else though.

There's a thread in the PC Discussion section that gives a massive list of titles (started by Zarx actually). If you want to know more then:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=124222&page=1#48

The list is huge (and probably hasn't been updated for a little while so should probably be longer now).




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Alby_da_Wolf on 26 August 2011

So, something should happen today, but what?



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