lighting is better

though not massive difference,same old forza comparision.they keep saying it but when game comes out it isn't good.

The Car difference is huge. The Forza 4 car looks a hell of a lot better and more realistic too. The environments do look better in Forza 4, but not nearly as big of a difference as the cars. The only thing I noticed that was really different was a lack of a stadium crowd in Forza 4 unlike Forza 3, but it's not that's big of a deal. Turn 10 had to sacrifice something to make Forza 4 look better, plus it makes the track look better without the horribly low detailed crowds.        

The car model and lighting look better. Otherwise it looks the same to me.

How is that possible that it be "infinitely better" when the FM3 hype brigade made FM3 out to be the bestest of the bestest EVA!

I just see more grass and more dirt :S

updated textures and lighting, they didn't really increase poly count in the model or anything, it's either a different year or more refined model, but it's not a technical marvel in any way.

Sweet!But it's not such a dramatic difference.

I would rather see an amount of difference in tracks/cars/modes than an 'OMG look the grass is better FTW!!!!'

I know people have to check their eyes Forza 4 looks better the grass, the lighting, the cars themselves overall it looks more realistic compared to forza 3's cartoony look which I never noticed until now.

kowens paranoia going full throttle I see..what else is new lol

I mean seriously, why even bring in gt5 to this thread? not needed and silly..

OT: the vids look great..F4 looks better, lightning and textures especially, car models look more detailed...but I wouldn't call it 'massive' difference which is not necessaraly a bad thing as F3 looked good as well..it's just selnor and his usualy hype train :D