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Forums - Microsoft - Forza 4 vs Forza 3. MASSIVE difference

freebs2 said:

There is a positive difference indeed, I wouldn't say massive but it is very good step forward. The problem is this video, it's not all that good for comparison. The video Selnor posted in his previous thread were much better. I'd say you can find improvements in every departments. Mostly in the enviroment detal and in self-shadows, the car model also got better even thought those were already great in FM3.

These were the video posted by Selnor previously.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USjBns0h6Kk&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vYKughn1Oqo

In this video you can seen the car model improvements

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzwhDiGJuTs

Off screen modded FM3 direct feed was used in that comparison.



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At 32 seconds. Why do the tyre barriers look like shit in F4 and there is no one in the crowd? F3 looks better in that shot. But other than that it is an improvement. 


Also I hope people realise that the 2 cars are different models? F3 is the E60 5 series while F4 is the F10 5 series



Better lighting is evident, but FM3 video is set in darker conditions,making the comparison not unbiased. Also, having tried FM3 at demo stands in stores, I remember its details were better than in the video, although car details in FM4 look improved.

Anyhow, nice job Turn 10, just don't ruin everything talking shit about competitors like last time. And be prepared, Sony will heavily bundle GT5 for F4 launch just like MS heavily bundled F3 for GT5 launch, when the spotlight is on racing sims (or any other genre that doesn't receive continuous media attention, for what matters) and payed by competitors' marketing money, it makes sense to steal some of it.



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kowenicki said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
kowenicki said:
GT5 defense force out in numbers. Lol.

If people remove their blinkers they will see a much improved car model, much more realistic and detailed textures for grass and track and the same for the scenery.


kowens paranoia going full throttle I see..what else is new lol

I mean seriously, why even bring in gt5 to this thread? not needed and silly..

OT: the vids look great..F4 looks better, lightning and textures especially, car models look more detailed...but I wouldn't call it 'massive' difference which is not necessaraly a bad thing as F3 looked good as well..it's just selnor and his usualy hype train :D

lol... go look at the detractors.  ethomaz think FM3 looks better !?

anyway nice to see someone with their eyes open.

Oh god!!! I said this video show more things (details) on F3 than F4... everything else looks better on F4 (car, lighting, track, etc)... but the comparision is bad because there are more things in F3 video than F4 (people, tire barrier, etc).

Stop being so defensive.



kowenicki said:

but thats not what you said in your post... you said f3 looks better than f4....

the rest was unsaid...  what am I? a mind reader?

stop being so defensive.

Here...

"Just look like F3 has more detail... people, tire barrier, etc.

Bad video comparison."

Where I said F3 looks better than F4?



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The lighting is better and they changed the colour of the grass and road, otherwise not a MASSIVE difference.



ethomaz said:
kowenicki said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
kowenicki said:
GT5 defense force out in numbers. Lol.

If people remove their blinkers they will see a much improved car model, much more realistic and detailed textures for grass and track and the same for the scenery.


kowens paranoia going full throttle I see..what else is new lol

I mean seriously, why even bring in gt5 to this thread? not needed and silly..

OT: the vids look great..F4 looks better, lightning and textures especially, car models look more detailed...but I wouldn't call it 'massive' difference which is not necessaraly a bad thing as F3 looked good as well..it's just selnor and his usualy hype train :D

lol... go look at the detractors.  ethomaz think FM3 looks better !?

anyway nice to see someone with their eyes open.

Oh god!!! I said this video show more things (details) on F3 than F4... everything else looks better on F4 (car, lighting, track, etc)... but the comparision is bad because there are more things in F3 video than F4 (people, tire barrier, etc).

Stop being so defensive.

how could kowen and nsanity survive with out doing that



looks just the same, lighting seems to have a bump and grass textues look more naturel instead of being next to illuminous in FM3 versions, car appears more shiney and detailed

FM3 was good, but had small game content, i want to see what game content FM4 has before purchase, with FM3 all i could play is season play and time trial, theres needs to be much more gameplay in there



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smroadkill15 said:

The Car difference is huge. The Forza 4 car looks a hell of a lot better and more realistic too. The environments do look better in Forza 4, but not nearly as big of a difference as the cars. The only thing I noticed that was really different was a lack of a stadium crowd in Forza 4 unlike Forza 3, but it's not that's big of a deal. Turn 10 had to sacrifice something to make Forza 4 look better, plus it makes the track look better without the horribly low detailed crowds.        

It looks like they will have crowds in it... well, some tracks will, if the picture on this page is accurate:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/viewer.php?mode=article&id=263702



If you want me to judge the differences in fine details, then I refuse to give judgement based on such a crappy video. Give me direct feed footage.