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RolStoppable said:

So what? We didn't need Microsoft to acknowledge the problem, because we already knew that it is a problem.


So, by the same logic, Nintendo didn't need to address the issue of 3DS's price, or give ambassadors something to make up for it, because we already knew it was a problem.



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I'm gonna suggest gloves that give force feedback O.o



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Xbox One: What are you doing Dave?

is that really a problem since you can hold anything in you hand to play Kinect games(like i will use Katana to play Rise of Nightmares)

btw even thats Molyneux still=/=Microsft,and he just talking about his next shi...game,misleading title



I dont see what the problem is. Cant they make a gun style accessory similar to the steering wheel they are making for forza? Its just sheer stupidity on MS's part because of the hands-free non-accessory emphasis they have on kinect.



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Ajescent said:
At the risk of sounding stupid. When we say "physical feedback", do we mean something like "Rumble" or the idea of physically holding something?


Haptic feedback is almost certainly what Pete is talking about (i.e. rumble):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haptic_technology

I have to agree with Pete on this one.  Having used Kinect for a while now I find it only really feels right with titles I wouldn't expect any further feedback than my body provides - such as Dance Central, etc. - whereas titles like Kinect Adventures tend to feel wrong after a while compared to playing Wii Sports Resort or Sports Champions (yes, I have all three consoles and tech).  For stuff like fitness and dancing or anything body movement related Kinect is clearly the best tech - but for stuff where you'd really be holding something in your hands I find it less effective than the competition.

As a result, for example, I'm not too interested in the upcoming Kinect Star Wars.  I give MS credit for going out and securing titles that should appeal on their console, but on a personal level I'd only really be interested if it was on Wii or PS3 as the motion tech on both of those consoles is simply better suited to the title - particularly as via the nun-chuck/sub-controller the game could explore full character movement.  For me that's a case of a game appearing on the wrong platform for business reasons rather than what's best for the game.

IMHO Kinect needs some wands of its own.  They could be cheap as they wouldn't need motion sensing just rumble and I'd argue a speaker and maybe a couple of buttons - an often overlooked aspect of Wii Mote is the speaker.  Hearing the whack of the ball from the Mote as you hit a ball in a game is a fantastic aural feedback neither Move nor Kinect can match at this moment for example.

EDIT: BTW comment's are Pete M's not Microsoft's.



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welshbloke said:
Molyneux or Microsoft? I think Molyneux in relation to his own creation hardly Microsoft.


THIS.

@OP I just came in here to tell you that:

''MS admits no physical interaction is a problem'' IS NOT THE SAME AS ''A single MS dev cutting features out of a game because they are less effective without tactile feedback.

Not.The.Same.



RolStoppable said:

So what? We didn't need Microsoft to acknowledge the problem, because we already knew that it is a problem.


This!!



fauzman said:
I dont see what the problem is. Cant they make a gun style accessory similar to the steering wheel they are making for forza? Its just sheer stupidity on MS's part because of the hands-free non-accessory emphasis they have on kinect.

Im 100% sure its the bolded. They have to sell people on the hands free stuff. But IMHO anybody who is in their right mind would know that hands free gaming is limited. Hell motion gaming by itself is limiting a bit as well.

Like i said before this game sounds like its on rails and Peter M. needs to get off of front street and admit it. He'll look less foolish



kinect has the ability to scan items. use peripherals duh.



MARCUSDJACKSON said:
kinect has the ability to scan items. use peripherals duh.

I wonder how well that works