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dahuman on 12 August 2011
Rainbird said:

That's just until the next generation when Microsoft decides to bundle the NextBox with Kinect and something like this.


The day I am required to wear a bodysuit to play video games is the day I fucking quit gaming and go do outdoor activities much more often than I do now.



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oniyide on 13 August 2011
thetonestarr said:
oniyide said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
oniyide said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
kinect has the ability to scan items. use peripherals duh.

I wonder how well that works

looks like Rol is on a Roll in this thread. he's getting quoted by everyone.

well kinect ti suppose to scan real world items which sounds dangerous to me. imagine scanning a real sword in for the new fable game.

since it hasn't been used yet and likely won't see much support either we'll never know or tome will tell?

i really doubt it could recognize a real sword, and a broom and notice the difference.

im going with we'll never know, it was a hyped feature and ive heard little since the release from anyone. That tells me, at least i think, the feature as it is now, probably is not worth a damn. I actually like the Kinect i just understand the limitations and accept it, i have no problems playing stuff like Kinect sports and what not. Those are actually fun. 

It's been already officially put out that Kinect is only capable of recognizing basic shapes - nothing complicated. IIRC, it doesn't even see fingers - just hands in general - so it definitely wouldn't see the difference between a broomstick, a sword, and a baseball bat.


goddamn BS ads!! They made it look so cool with the skateboard and everything



gtown on 13 August 2011

I'll just leave this here:



Darth Tigris on 13 August 2011
Icyedge said:

I agree that Molineux is representing Microsoft. But he stated this as a limitation not as a problem. Every tech has limitation, and a limitation dont = problem.

""We could have done melee weapons, but the one thing I hate about melee weapons, and guns as well, is that the human brain is encoded to expect recoil from those things."" =  Clearly a limitation and not a problem. Its not that it cant do what its meant to do.


It's unfortunate that some gamers are still so narrow minded that they can't understand this.  EVERY form of control has limitations.  There are wild, crazy things you can do with Kinect that a regular controller can't come close to emulating.  Dance Central with a controller isn't dancing at all.  A regular Fable game has magic that you press a button to activate.  Are you telling me that's not a limitation compared to what we've seen already from THIS game?

The OP is just another attempt at a Kinect bash that instead simply demonstrates the limitations of some gamer's ability to think outside the box.  And the misleading title should be fixed by mods.



Rainbird on 13 August 2011
dahuman said:
Rainbird said:

That's just until the next generation when Microsoft decides to bundle the NextBox with Kinect and something like this.

The day I am required to wear a bodysuit to play video games is the day I fucking quit gaming and go do outdoor activities much more often than I do now.

Then imagine Microsoft making wristbands with the same tech.



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Rainbird on 13 August 2011
trasharmdsister12 said:
Rainbird said:
thetonestarr said:
I'd think a better solution would be force-feedback actuators that can be individually attached to specified parts of the body. Strap-on vibrators, if you will.

I could see them doing something like the suit, but just with four bands in the package or something. Wrist band vibration!

I made a thread about that article a couple of months ago... It got 0 replies.

Of course, who wants to wear stuff when you can just hold a controller!?



Reasonable on 13 August 2011
Rainbird said:
dahuman said:
Rainbird said:

That's just until the next generation when Microsoft decides to bundle the NextBox with Kinect and something like this.

The day I am required to wear a bodysuit to play video games is the day I fucking quit gaming and go do outdoor activities much more often than I do now.

Then imagine Microsoft making wristbands with the same tech.


http://www.next-gen.biz/news/disney-demonstrates-groundbreaking-tactile-gaming-technology

It's coming...

Quote from article...

"Although we have only implemented Surround Haptics with a gaming chair to date, the technology can be easily embedded into clothing, gloves, sports equipment and mobile computing devices," said Disney Research senior research scientist Ivan Poupyrev. "This technology has the capability of enhancing the perception of flying or falling, of shrinking or growing, of feeling bugs creeping on your skin. The possibilities are endless."



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

Rainbird on 13 August 2011
Reasonable said:
Rainbird said:
dahuman said:
Rainbird said:

That's just until the next generation when Microsoft decides to bundle the NextBox with Kinect and something like this.

The day I am required to wear a bodysuit to play video games is the day I fucking quit gaming and go do outdoor activities much more often than I do now.

Then imagine Microsoft making wristbands with the same tech.


http://www.next-gen.biz/news/disney-demonstrates-groundbreaking-tactile-gaming-technology

It's coming...

Quote from article...

"Although we have only implemented Surround Haptics with a gaming chair to date, the technology can be easily embedded into clothing, gloves, sports equipment and mobile computing devices," said Disney Research senior research scientist Ivan Poupyrev. "This technology has the capability of enhancing the perception of flying or falling, of shrinking or growing, of feeling bugs creeping on your skin. The possibilities are endless."

Nice! Now we just need Microsoft to bundle it with the NextBox along with Kinect (and put a button or two on it maybe?)!



thetonestarr on 13 August 2011
oniyide said:
thetonestarr said:
oniyide said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
oniyide said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
kinect has the ability to scan items. use peripherals duh.

I wonder how well that works

looks like Rol is on a Roll in this thread. he's getting quoted by everyone.

well kinect ti suppose to scan real world items which sounds dangerous to me. imagine scanning a real sword in for the new fable game.

since it hasn't been used yet and likely won't see much support either we'll never know or tome will tell?

i really doubt it could recognize a real sword, and a broom and notice the difference.

im going with we'll never know, it was a hyped feature and ive heard little since the release from anyone. That tells me, at least i think, the feature as it is now, probably is not worth a damn. I actually like the Kinect i just understand the limitations and accept it, i have no problems playing stuff like Kinect sports and what not. Those are actually fun. 

It's been already officially put out that Kinect is only capable of recognizing basic shapes - nothing complicated. IIRC, it doesn't even see fingers - just hands in general - so it definitely wouldn't see the difference between a broomstick, a sword, and a baseball bat.


goddamn BS ads!! They made it look so cool with the skateboard and everything

I'm certain it'd be able to recognize a skateboard or something that resembles one and treat it as a skateboard. When I say "basic shapes", I don't mean THAT basic. They can see the general idea of something, so it can tell when something is sword-shaped (but that'd probably include a broomstick or bat, as mentioned before), gun-shaped, rifle-shaped, skateboard-shaped, or racket-shaped.



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oniyide on 13 August 2011
thetonestarr said:
oniyide said:
thetonestarr said:
oniyide said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
oniyide said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
kinect has the ability to scan items. use peripherals duh.

I wonder how well that works

looks like Rol is on a Roll in this thread. he's getting quoted by everyone.

well kinect ti suppose to scan real world items which sounds dangerous to me. imagine scanning a real sword in for the new fable game.

since it hasn't been used yet and likely won't see much support either we'll never know or tome will tell?

i really doubt it could recognize a real sword, and a broom and notice the difference.

im going with we'll never know, it was a hyped feature and ive heard little since the release from anyone. That tells me, at least i think, the feature as it is now, probably is not worth a damn. I actually like the Kinect i just understand the limitations and accept it, i have no problems playing stuff like Kinect sports and what not. Those are actually fun. 

It's been already officially put out that Kinect is only capable of recognizing basic shapes - nothing complicated. IIRC, it doesn't even see fingers - just hands in general - so it definitely wouldn't see the difference between a broomstick, a sword, and a baseball bat.


goddamn BS ads!! They made it look so cool with the skateboard and everything

I'm certain it'd be able to recognize a skateboard or something that resembles one and treat it as a skateboard. When I say "basic shapes", I don't mean THAT basic. They can see the general idea of something, so it can tell when something is sword-shaped (but that'd probably include a broomstick or bat, as mentioned before), gun-shaped, rifle-shaped, skateboard-shaped, or racket-shaped.

im just saying i remember one ad where a kid scanned a skateboard, i thought to myself "that looks too bad ass to ever work properly" and so far ive been right