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HappySqurriel on 10 August 2011

As a Canadian, I think most people around the world think of Canada as the first country to gain its independence by asking really nicely ...

Realistically, I think the reason Canada is so often over looked is that we're a country that always plays a supporting role. While we may (at times) take on a disproportionately large role, the fact that we're not large enough to take on the lead role makes us easy to forget.



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Galaki on 10 August 2011
HappySqurriel said:

Realistically, I think the reason Canada is so often over looked is that we're a country that always plays a supporting role. While we may (at times) take on a disproportionately large role, the fact that we're not large enough to take on the lead role makes us easy to forget.

Canadians are way too polite to ask for credits.



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kain_kusanagi on 11 August 2011
IseeLight said:
kain_kusanagi said:
Look at it like this. Canada was and still is part of the British Empire and therefor Canada was part of the British forces and therefor when anyone mentions what the English did you can just pretend they mean the British.

The first step in gaining a reputation as big as the USA is kicking the English out of your country. The world will continue to see Canada as England's toady for as long as the Queen is Canada's head of state.

Good luck with your revolution.

lol if you believe that you are ignorant as hell, and the USA lost to a third world country that's how bad their military is.

A. I was being cheeky.

B. I find it hilarious that you'd call anyone ignorant while making statement like that.

 

On another topic. Maybe Canada gets forgotten because it has 1/10th the population of the USA. For every Canadian who wants to see a Canadian focused war movie there are 10 Americans buying tickets to an American focused war movie. It probably doesn't help that over 90% of the population live within about 100 miles of the US border, shop, and vacation in the USA, and generally get mistaken for Americans when visiting abroad.

If every Canadian couple had 20 kids Canada would have the same population as the USA in the span of one generation. That would mean Canada would probably have a film industry on par with the USA and they'd be able to make as many Canadian war movies as they want.

Have fun making babies.



Joelcool7 on 11 August 2011
yo_john117 said:
Joelcool7 said:

Alright so this is a major beef I have with the game and film industries. Canada always gets made fun of picked on and such. Never does Canada actually get credit for what they did in WWI, WWII, Cold War Era, Korea...etc....etc... America always takes all the credit. Infact CoD3 was the first game and the last that I know of to actually have Canadian's mentioned and active in the game.

Infact in WWII Canada had the third largest Navy in the world and one of the largest armed forces. If it weren't for Canada WWII probably would have been lost. Canada was responsable for Liberating a shit load of Europe. Yet the movies and games based on WWII always mention America and Britian sometimes even the French militaries. But what about Canada?

I find it so irritating that Canada played such a huge role in almost every major conflict this century yet nobody recognizes their contributions. Now I get it that in Europe their are mass cemetaries with Canadian soldiers and that in Europe some countries are very grateful. But it seems for the most part that everybody remembers what American's have done, what the British have done. What France what Russia etc...etc...

But Canada is almost always left out. The only times we really get mentioned is when Canadian film makers make a war movie. But even in Canada often film makers would rather glorify the mighty American's in WWII rather then give the credit that is due to our men and women in uniform.

Its so angering knowing soldiers from my country gave their lives in service and they aren't even given credit in video games or movies!

Although I understand your perspective and agree with most of what you say the bolded is very unlikely.


Well D-day wouldn't have happened or been successful without Canada. The Allies tested the German defences and ran a test D-Day on Dieppe sending in 6,500 Canadians to land on a beach. They got massacred and the allies retreated learning alot about the german defences. Then Canada was in charge of landing off Juno Beach one of the beaches of D-Day. Also don't forget that Canada pretty much liberated the Netherlands (Holland). Also with the third largest Navy in the world Canada is hugely responsable for keeping Britians ass safe. Also the Canadian Navy prevented the German's from controlling the North Atlantic and protected all those American ships headed to Europe.

Without Canada WWII could have ended very differently for the allies.

kain_kusanagi said:
 

If every Canadian couple had 20 kids Canada would have the same population as the USA in the span of one generation. That would mean Canada would probably have a film industry on par with the USA and they'd be able to make as many Canadian war movies as they want.

Have fun making babies.


Umm you do realize Vancouver British Columbia is called Hollywood North and often refered to as home to the third largest film producing districts of the world. Infact a ton of your American movies are made right here in British Columbia and if they aren't then their likely made in Toronto or Montreal. Canada produces almost as many if not more hollywood movies then Hollywood does. But your right our market is much smaller then the US. But why should Canadian companies and all the other companies always pander to America? Same goes for game companies Canada is what third largest game producing country in the world right behind Japan and the US. So where are our Canadian content and why do we still not get mentioned?



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starcraft on 11 August 2011
The Fury said:
As part of the commonwealth, we (I) know what Canada has done and appreciate your help in WWI and II, along with then help Australia, New Zealand and many other commonwealth countries provided during these wars. I appreciate the help all nations involved have provided in modern conflicts as well.

It's a shame the US owns most of the film industry and games with USAian characters sell. See U-571 as a major example. (appeal to your biggest market).

Questions of nationality aside though, epic movie.



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Faxanadu on 11 August 2011

Canada has a military?



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welshbloke on 11 August 2011

Canada is one of those countries that acts and that counts for a lot! You should take pride in that.

As a retired member of the British military I can say both past and current serving members of the British Armed forces recognise your deeds both past and present.

I would not concern yourselves with views such as Kain_Kusanagi who clearly does not understand Canada's position in the new world today. Canada may well be a member of the commonwealth but it is also closely aligned with the US in many ways.



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welshbloke on 11 August 2011

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Without Canada and in fact the commonwealth forces in total I am not so sure the US would of had anything to come to rescue too so in that respect you could say without them the outcome would of been completely different. Also the war even with the US War machine was not so clear cut even at this point and had the Axis powers made some different decisions the result could easily of been very different.



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badgenome on 11 August 2011
Faxanadu said:
Canada has a military?

What's a canada?



fordy on 11 August 2011
PDF said:


The only real decision the Axis could have made differently that would have turned the war was if Hitler didnt betray Stalin.  


I'd go one further and say if Hitler didn't try to attack Russia during one of the coldest winters of it's time. The Russians had a massive advantage there. Had it been a different season, the Nazis could have very well beat Russia, and in sequence, Hitler would not have cancelled his battle plans for the invasion of Britain (which he had to cancel to keep up the offense against the Russians, I believe)

America would have had a lot more difficult time with just the ANZACs and the Canadians helping them liberate Europe, especially with the Japanese keeping the majority of the ANZACs busy in the Pacific.