It's mind bogling to see some users freely surrender part of their consumer rights for the benefit of multi milion dollar corporations.

I don't think I'm ever buying a game that has online pass.

That server argument is just ridiculous. They don't run game servers anyway so there's that, and all that's left is the user database server. The costs are probably almost non-existant: How hard can it be to create and store a new account? Not very, I guess. Besides, if they are willing to improve the experience and sales with persistent stats, they better be ready to pay for it too.

As for the 'devs deserve the money' argument, gaming industry is the only one that is really trying to get money from used stuff. I see it as my right to buy games used and get the full experience (whatever full even means these days, with on-disc DLC and all).

Shitty EA servers that still lag, that is.

what right sexactly am I surrendering ?

I buy new, I don't resell.

Effect on me = 0.

Besides they are trying to move the profit from the like of gamestop to the developers which i totally support.

It's kinda of mind boggling that on some games gamestop makes more money that the developer/publisher that originally made the game....

if the money doesn't end up in the pocket of the people making the games, the business model just isn't sustainable..

It's a CD key. If anything this just shows that even in DRM the consoles take around a decade or more to catch up.

Not really that simple. On PC, I doubt it's very common that CD keys are in use unless the game has online accounts that use the CD key, which is not very common for older games.

On consoles? Wow, I didn't know that. Still, doesn't justify online pass as there's still only one player per copy.

I can install and play single-player Starcraft with any CD-Key, but I can't get online unless it's unique. That was 13 years ago.

At this moment I support it, why? Gamestops policies and general consumer greed and laziness have completely screwed up the balance between new and used games, when someone goes into gamestop and buys a used game for 55 bucks you can't tell me that isn't a lost sale for the developer/publisher, if gamestop didn't sell it used for 5 bucks less they would have gotten it new for 60, and some games are cheaper sealed in other stores then they are in gamestop used and they still sell at gamestop used, again that's another lost sale, so developers/publishers trying to cut into gamestops profits which they essentially stole from developers/publishers I see no problem with.

All that said it is unfortunate that people in other situations get caught in the crossfire, some people really can't afford games new and buy them used from someone else for more then gamestop would pay them but significant less then in any store and it's too bad about that, but make no mistake this is a retaliation towards gamestop and stores like it and gamestop did start it.

That reasoning is absolute horseshit. It's not like the guy who sold the game is still playing it, or putting any sort of server burden on you

Don't lie if you don't want to tell the truth

He has the right of it actually. Used game sales are to consoles as piracy is to the PC. This is just one form of DRM, it just happens to tackle a different problem.