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What do you think of Online Pass?

They shouldn't sell them... 1 2.27%
 
I support it, it is fair ... 18 40.91%
 
No opinion (see results) 4 9.09%
 
I'm against it, it's sk... 12 27.27%
 
I won't buy games with Online pass 7 15.91%
 
They should sell them on ... 2 4.55%
 
Total:44
Cross-X on 03 August 2011

I Don't Care?

Because I dont buy second hand anyway so Online Passes never affected me in anyway.



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mjk45 on 03 August 2011

I will support it up to the day EB where I live stops checking to see if they have a used version of the new game I bring up to the counter even though I didn't want it and then waste my time trying to sell me the used game even when I have made it clear I want it new. You don't see new car sales rooms try to sell you the used version sitting right next to the new one do you.



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Galaki on 04 August 2011
BrokenBones646 said:
At this moment I support it, why? Gamestops policies and general consumer greed and laziness have completely screwed up the balance between new and used games, when someone goes into gamestop and buys a used game for 55 bucks you can't tell me that isn't a lost sale for the developer/publisher, if gamestop didn't sell it used for 5 bucks less they would have gotten it new for 60, and some games are cheaper sealed in other stores then they are in gamestop used and they still sell at gamestop used, again that's another lost sale, so developers/publishers trying to cut into gamestops profits which they essentially stole from developers/publishers I see no problem with.

All that said it is unfortunate that people in other situations get caught in the crossfire, some people really can't afford games new and buy them used from someone else for more then gamestop would pay them but significant less then in any store and it's too bad about that, but make no mistake this is a retaliation towards gamestop and stores like it and gamestop did start it.

So, it's gamestop fault and some people's stupidity fault. But you prefer to punish everyone else, too?



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Baalzamon on 04 August 2011
vlad321 said:
Zkuq said:
vlad321 said:
It's a CD key. If anything this just shows that even in DRM the consoles take around a decade or more to catch up.

Not really that simple. On PC, I doubt it's very common that CD keys are in use unless the game has online accounts that use the CD key, which is not very common for older games.


I can install and play single-player Starcraft with any CD-Key, but I can't get online unless it's unique. That was 13 years ago.

You can't get online if nobody else with the same CD key is online.  That is completely and totally different.  That means if you sell it (I sold Starcraft as well as Warcraft 3), there will be no problems whatsoever for the people who purchased it, because they are the only ones using those CD keys.

With the online passes, they are making it so it is unique to one account (I think it is account as well as the original ps3 it was validated on).  If you sell it, the other people can't play online, even though nobody else is currently online with it.

One allows somebody to sell it and the other person to have full access (it simply limits the access of one copy to one user at a time), the other makes it so should somebody sell it, the other person has to buy an additional pass to play it.



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BrokenBones646 on 04 August 2011
Galaki said:
BrokenBones646 said:
At this moment I support it, why? Gamestops policies and general consumer greed and laziness have completely screwed up the balance between new and used games, when someone goes into gamestop and buys a used game for 55 bucks you can't tell me that isn't a lost sale for the developer/publisher, if gamestop didn't sell it used for 5 bucks less they would have gotten it new for 60, and some games are cheaper sealed in other stores then they are in gamestop used and they still sell at gamestop used, again that's another lost sale, so developers/publishers trying to cut into gamestops profits which they essentially stole from developers/publishers I see no problem with.

All that said it is unfortunate that people in other situations get caught in the crossfire, some people really can't afford games new and buy them used from someone else for more then gamestop would pay them but significant less then in any store and it's too bad about that, but make no mistake this is a retaliation towards gamestop and stores like it and gamestop did start it.

So, it's gamestop fault and some people's stupidity fault. But you prefer to punish everyone else, too?

1. You got a better solution?

2. How many buy multiplayer games used off someone for the best price possible?



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Zlejedi on 04 August 2011
BrokenBones646 said:
Galaki said:
BrokenBones646 said:
At this moment I support it, why? Gamestops policies and general consumer greed and laziness have completely screwed up the balance between new and used games, when someone goes into gamestop and buys a used game for 55 bucks you can't tell me that isn't a lost sale for the developer/publisher, if gamestop didn't sell it used for 5 bucks less they would have gotten it new for 60, and some games are cheaper sealed in other stores then they are in gamestop used and they still sell at gamestop used, again that's another lost sale, so developers/publishers trying to cut into gamestops profits which they essentially stole from developers/publishers I see no problem with.

All that said it is unfortunate that people in other situations get caught in the crossfire, some people really can't afford games new and buy them used from someone else for more then gamestop would pay them but significant less then in any store and it's too bad about that, but make no mistake this is a retaliation towards gamestop and stores like it and gamestop did start it.

So, it's gamestop fault and some people's stupidity fault. But you prefer to punish everyone else, too?

1. You got a better solution?

2. How many buy multiplayer games used off someone for the best price possible?

Simple one - make games worth keeping or if you make 5 hours long crap sell it digitally for 10$ ?



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snakenobi on 04 August 2011

its understandable but then everything in the world is understandable

i don't support it

for example,i borrow or lend a game to my friend.the person should be able to play the game just for that while


i don't sell my game or buy second hand so the other person will have to buy the game for long experience



BrokenBones646 on 04 August 2011
Zlejedi said:
BrokenBones646 said:
Galaki said:
BrokenBones646 said:
At this moment I support it, why? Gamestops policies and general consumer greed and laziness have completely screwed up the balance between new and used games, when someone goes into gamestop and buys a used game for 55 bucks you can't tell me that isn't a lost sale for the developer/publisher, if gamestop didn't sell it used for 5 bucks less they would have gotten it new for 60, and some games are cheaper sealed in other stores then they are in gamestop used and they still sell at gamestop used, again that's another lost sale, so developers/publishers trying to cut into gamestops profits which they essentially stole from developers/publishers I see no problem with.

All that said it is unfortunate that people in other situations get caught in the crossfire, some people really can't afford games new and buy them used from someone else for more then gamestop would pay them but significant less then in any store and it's too bad about that, but make no mistake this is a retaliation towards gamestop and stores like it and gamestop did start it.

So, it's gamestop fault and some people's stupidity fault. But you prefer to punish everyone else, too?

1. You got a better solution?

2. How many buy multiplayer games used off someone for the best price possible?

Simple one - make games worth keeping or if you make 5 hours long crap sell it digitally for 10$ ?

lol people trade in games worth keeping every day to gamestop lol wow you really are bad at this don't start a buisness.



Ail on 04 August 2011
Zlejedi said:
BrokenBones646 said:
Galaki said:
BrokenBones646 said:
At this moment I support it, why? Gamestops policies and general consumer greed and laziness have completely screwed up the balance between new and used games, when someone goes into gamestop and buys a used game for 55 bucks you can't tell me that isn't a lost sale for the developer/publisher, if gamestop didn't sell it used for 5 bucks less they would have gotten it new for 60, and some games are cheaper sealed in other stores then they are in gamestop used and they still sell at gamestop used, again that's another lost sale, so developers/publishers trying to cut into gamestops profits which they essentially stole from developers/publishers I see no problem with.

All that said it is unfortunate that people in other situations get caught in the crossfire, some people really can't afford games new and buy them used from someone else for more then gamestop would pay them but significant less then in any store and it's too bad about that, but make no mistake this is a retaliation towards gamestop and stores like it and gamestop did start it.

So, it's gamestop fault and some people's stupidity fault. But you prefer to punish everyone else, too?

1. You got a better solution?

2. How many buy multiplayer games used off someone for the best price possible?

Simple one - make games worth keeping or if you make 5 hours long crap sell it digitally for 10$ ?

In case you didn't notice the topic is about online multiplayer, not 5 hours games........



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Hephaestos on 04 August 2011
Baalzamon said:
vlad321 said:
Zkuq said:
vlad321 said:
It's a CD key. If anything this just shows that even in DRM the consoles take around a decade or more to catch up.

Not really that simple. On PC, I doubt it's very common that CD keys are in use unless the game has online accounts that use the CD key, which is not very common for older games.


I can install and play single-player Starcraft with any CD-Key, but I can't get online unless it's unique. That was 13 years ago.

You can't get online if nobody else with the same CD key is online.  That is completely and totally different.  That means if you sell it (I sold Starcraft as well as Warcraft 3), there will be no problems whatsoever for the people who purchased it, because they are the only ones using those CD keys.

With the online passes, they are making it so it is unique to one account (I think it is account as well as the original ps3 it was validated on).  If you sell it, the other people can't play online, even though nobody else is currently online with it.

One allows somebody to sell it and the other person to have full access (it simply limits the access of one copy to one user at a time), the other makes it so should somebody sell it, the other person has to buy an additional pass to play it.

Err would YOU buy a used PC game that has a CD key? not everyone is as honnest as you obviously are.

Moreover, games on PC are also linked to accounts now. Be it steamworks products or Battlenet, there is no reselling possible. I'm waging it'll be the same for the Origine service.... CD key linked to account.



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