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osamanobama on 23 July 2011
Nsanity said:
Your trying too hard.



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GreyianStorm on 24 July 2011
dsage01 said:
GreyianStorm said:
Lyrikalstylez said:

couldn't have said it any better......As I recall I estimated around 7 million life time which is currently about right, compared to other "certain users who where claiming +10 million life time sold *chuckles*

 

I Dont care anyways


You originally said 4-6 million actually, after the first sales figures were released too.

 

In respect to the OP, I think it depends on your definition of mass bundling. If the game is bundled with only some hardware, and at the full price of the standalone system and the game, then it won't really change much. If it's bundled at close to/the same price as a console by itself, and is widespead, it could add millions of sales in a short period of time (for example, if all hardware shipped for a quarter was  bundled).

If GT5 is mass bundled, I'd expect it to outsell Reach by a sizeable margin, but it wouldn't really mean much, as standalone sales (or sales bundled, but at full price) are far more significant for measuring how widespread a game's popularity is.

LOL fail at hating on a game. Ummm do you have no idea of GT5'S legs. And currently it's tracking ahead of GTA 4 and GT4 which are at 8 + million right now. If you want to hate at least do it right.

 

I'm not actually sure who you're saying is hating on the game. If it's Lyrikalstylez's, I'd agree that his predictions and general demeanour towards GT5 has been less than positive, and his 4-6 million prediction has been shown to be pretty poor. If you're calling me a hater, I'm letting you know you're sorely mistaken. GT5 is one of my favourite games of the generation so far. I'm well aware of the legs of GT5. I never said it would stop selling. I simply tried to get an understanding of what you meant by "mass bundling". As I explained, if the hardware (lets say $300 for simplicity) and the game ($50, for simplicity) are bundled for $350, I don't see it having much/any effect, seeing as people who don't want the game wouldn't pay full price for it effectively.

Also, mass bundling of the game for no added cost with hardware wouldn't be something to brag about when it comes to sales figures (not that sales figures are something that really have a need to be bragged about).

Really, it's irrelevant whether or not GT5 outsells Reach, apart from fanboy arguments. GT5 has already outsold...99% of released PS3 games? Halo Reach has done similar on the Xbox 360. They are the most popular exclusive franchises on their respective consoles. They are both huge revenue (and profit) generators for their developers/publishers. They are both loved by millions of gamers around the world (largely with divergent tastes). They are both likely to keep on selling for a long time, bundled or not. Whichever game ends up with more sales isn't going to be remembered for how it sold, but how enjoyable it was. And to a lot of people, each game is extremely enjoyable.



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dsage01 on 24 July 2011
GreyianStorm said:
dsage01 said:
GreyianStorm said:
Lyrikalstylez said:

couldn't have said it any better......As I recall I estimated around 7 million life time which is currently about right, compared to other "certain users who where claiming +10 million life time sold *chuckles*

 

I Dont care anyways


You originally said 4-6 million actually, after the first sales figures were released too.

 

In respect to the OP, I think it depends on your definition of mass bundling. If the game is bundled with only some hardware, and at the full price of the standalone system and the game, then it won't really change much. If it's bundled at close to/the same price as a console by itself, and is widespead, it could add millions of sales in a short period of time (for example, if all hardware shipped for a quarter was  bundled).

If GT5 is mass bundled, I'd expect it to outsell Reach by a sizeable margin, but it wouldn't really mean much, as standalone sales (or sales bundled, but at full price) are far more significant for measuring how widespread a game's popularity is.

LOL fail at hating on a game. Ummm do you have no idea of GT5'S legs. And currently it's tracking ahead of GTA 4 and GT4 which are at 8 + million right now. If you want to hate at least do it right.

 

I'm not actually sure who you're saying is hating on the game. If it's Lyrikalstylez's, I'd agree that his predictions and general demeanour towards GT5 has been less than positive, and his 4-6 million prediction has been shown to be pretty poor. If you're calling me a hater, I'm letting you know you're sorely mistaken. GT5 is one of my favourite games of the generation so far. I'm well aware of the legs of GT5. I never said it would stop selling. I simply tried to get an understanding of what you meant by "mass bundling". As I explained, if the hardware (lets say $300 for simplicity) and the game ($50, for simplicity) are bundled for $350, I don't see it having much/any effect, seeing as people who don't want the game wouldn't pay full price for it effectively.

Also, mass bundling of the game for no added cost with hardware wouldn't be something to brag about when it comes to sales figures (not that sales figures are something that really have a need to be bragged about).

Really, it's irrelevant whether or not GT5 outsells Reach, apart from fanboy arguments. GT5 has already outsold...99% of released PS3 games? Halo Reach has done similar on the Xbox 360. They are the most popular exclusive franchises on their respective consoles. They are both huge revenue (and profit) generators for their developers/publishers. They are both loved by millions of gamers around the world (largely with divergent tastes). They are both likely to keep on selling for a long time, bundled or not. Whichever game ends up with more sales isn't going to be remembered for how it sold, but how enjoyable it was. And to a lot of people, each game is extremely enjoyable.


No I'm not calling you a hater lol. Calling the guy a hater who think GT5 would have only sold 4-6 million.



dsage01 on 24 July 2011
yo_john117 said:
dsage01 said:
yo_john117 said:
dsage01 said:

God damn it dsage! Those are all the SAME damn bundle which is the special limited edition Halo Reach 360 and it's the ONLY official bundle (at least that I know about) for Halo Reach...not to mention it costs $399 which is more expensive then a normal official bundles like the Forza3/ODST bundle one which cost $299. 

Now pay attention to this:

Neither GT5 nor Halo Reach have gotten very many sales due to bundles and neither one is really more bundled then the other so far...this is not an opinion it's a fact.

Nah there's a spereate bundle for each country. And yes you are right Neither Halo Reach or GT5 have very man bundles.

Lol seriously man it's only 1 bundle and it's this one right here.

There is no other bundle then the one above.


You frogot the Japense, UK and U.S. edition. And I heard there's a controller bundle too. With one controller you get Halo Reach. But anyways lets drop this argument. It's pointless. Do you think GT5 will outsell Reach with bundling. Doesn't have to be massive just God of War 3/ Uncharted 2 type

Urk! those are the same bundles...it was a worldwide bundle. The only difference was the language on the box. And there is no controller bundle.

I've already said in my first post what I think will happen reguarding if GT5 will outsell Reach with bundling or not.

okay thanks I got it.



TT Makaveli on 26 July 2011
Jay520 said:

If it gets bundled enough: yes
If it doesn't: no


co-sign that!

it really depends on the bundling...bundle this shit with all the new PS3s and we got our typical GT numbers back!



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mendozahotness on 28 July 2011
dsage01 said:

LOL so as of now Halo, Gears of War, God of War and Uncharted are all weak franchises?


god of war and uncharted are weak franchises yes,

dsage01 said:

GT is ahead of all of them. Try to research more before you hate.

not anymore, gt in todays market is a weak franchise, harkening back to the good old days before playstation fell for its numbers just goes to show how far its fallen



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