This is Norway. These things don't happen here, nothing of this sort ever has. Besides stabbings out on town and a murder case now and then, there haven't been hostile actions like these since WWII in Norway.

Its different here, not everyone owns a gun. Do you send armed escorts with your kids to summer camp or summer school in the US? This is kind of the same thing. This summer camp has been going on for about 40 years without a single incident, the same with the retreats of the other youth wings of other parties, no one could ever have seen this coming and the need for armed guards and police would have seemed ludicrous to anyone.

And now we have the "honor" of housing the worst spree killer (with guns) in the history of the world... Unfathomable, to say the least.

I'd like to think there is one security guard with a gun... or at least someone near by.

I know there is at schools.

Spree Killers are an eventuality, that it hasn't happened in norway for a long time is probably just a testament to the small population size.

Nobody had a cell phone?

I'm just... confused how so many people could of been shot.

it's almost sickening when the event was first broadcasted, they jump on their prejudices and blamed the muslims. This is before concluding who the real perpretrator is and I know you guys are going to say that it was a educated guess, but it really damages the image of muslims and bluring the line even more.

Sorry but maybe next time you shouldn't jump the gun like the media.

large group of people.  very small island.

the dots around the large building are all tents

So in what way does question the security threat posed by a 12 year old girl or her grandparents imply racial profiling?

If you look at killing sprees or terrorist attacks they tend to be carried out by single males who have no children who have close ties to a radical political, fundamentalist religious background, or have a long string of extreme behaviour that acts as "warning signs". With information that is readily available or already collected by the government you could realistically eliminate 95% of people from being likely terrorists without ever considering ethnic background.

Of course, we can completely ignore rational classification and continue to search the diapers of elderly women because it would be inappropriate to consider that not all people are likely terrorists.

It took the police 45 minutes to get there, which is not surprising if you look up the area in googlemaps.

Utøya, 8647, Hemnes, Nordland, Norway, Very remote sparsely populated area.

I would rather have stricter gun control then posting security guards with guns everywhere.

Touche. Ouch. Still, I stand by my stricter immigration policies claim.

Except the probem with that is... when someone DOES have a gun... which criminals always will... they can do whatever the hell they want until the police can get out there.

Like... say this very case.

I mean, i'd rather people not comit crimes then have cops...

yet...

From my understanding police officers don't carry guns in Norway. That's what tipped off the kids from the camp that there was something wrong with the guy. The moment he pulled out his gun. (according to interviews)