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Now this was a shock. And how fucked up can people be uh. Shit.



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leatherhat said:
NinjaguyDan said:
leatherhat said:
NinjaguyDan said:

In this day and age, isn't that the same thing? (ask rupert)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

"Fascists seek to purge forces, ideas, and systems deemed to be the cause of decadence and degeneration"

Which side of the political spectrum does that fit?  (Hint: It ain't the leftie socialists!)

...

So they destroy decadence buy building decadent hotels for criminals? 

Interesting...

And in a fascist viewpoint crime is a degeneration of culture, so they would purge criminals- and not in the nicest of ways. 4 star hotels hardly constitute a purge. 

You do your masters proud (NOT!)

Thanks for defining non sequitur.

Hahaha, sometimes I forget how many glorious leftist countries there have been. The purges of Stalin and Mao, the killing fields of the Khmer Rouge. Truly leftisim leads to such free and peaceful countries. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Brigades



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BTW, here is a blog post from one of the kids from the youth camp, detailing the experience.

I woke up. I can not sleep more. I'm sitting in the living room. Feeling grief, anger, happiness, God, I do not know what. There are too many emotions. There are too many thoughts. I'm afraid. I react to the slightest sound. I will write about what happened on Utøya. What my eyes saw, what I felt, what I did. The words come straight from the liver, but I would also anonymize many names out of respect for my friends.

We had a crisis meeting in the main building after the explosions in Oslo. After that there was a meeting for members of Akershus and Oslo. After the meetings were many, many people around and in the main building. We consoled ourselves that we were safe on an island. No one knew that hell would break out with us too.


I stood in the main time when panic broke out. I heard shots. I saw him shoot. All started to run. The first thought was: "Why shoot the police on us? What the hell? "I ran into the little room. People ran. Screamed. I was scared. I managed to get into one of the rooms at the back of the building. We were many in there. We lay on the floor all together. We heard several shots. Were more afraid. I cried. I knew nothing. I saw my best friend through the window and wondered if I should go out and bring him to me. I did not. I saw fear in his eyes. We were lying on the floor inside the room for a few minutes. We agreed not to release more in case the killer came. We heard several shots and decided to jump out the window. Panic broke out among us. All in the room rushed to the window and tried to jump out. I was the last and thought: "I am the last to jump out the window. Now I'm dying. I'm sure, but it might be okay, then I know that the others are safe. "I kasket my bag out the window. Tried to managed down, but lost her grip. I landed hard on the left part of the body. A boy helped me up. We ran into the woods. I looked around. "Is he here? Shoot him for me? Viewing him myself? "A girl had a broken ankle. Another was severely injured. I tried to help a little bit before I went down to the water. I sought cover behind a sort of brick wall. We were many. I prayed, prayed, prayed. I hope that God saw me. I called Mom and said that it was not safe we ​​would meet again, but that I would do anything to clear me. I said several times that I loved her. I heard fear in her voice. She cried. It hurt. I sent a text message to my dad, told him I loved him. I sent a text message to another person I am very, very happy in. We were a little contact. I sent a text message to my best friend. He did not answer. We heard several shots. Snuggled together. Did everything we could to keep warm. There were so many thoughts. I was so scared. My dad called me. I cried, said I loved him. He said he was going with my brother to take me welcome when I come across to the mainland, or they came to the island. There were so many emotions. So many thoughts. I told everything I could. It took some time. The other called parents eventually started all texting for fear that the killer would hear us. I thought of my sister who's away. How I would tell her how it went? What happened to me. I updated on Twitter and Facebook that I was still alive and that I was "safe." I wrote that I was waiting for the police. People jumped into the water, started swimming. I was lying. I decided that if he did, I would play dead. I would not run or swim. I can not describe the fear, all your mind, what I felt.


A one came. "I'm from the police." I was lying. Some shouted back that he had to prove it. I do not remember exactly what he said, but the killer started shooting. He charged. Extension more. He shot those around me. I was lying. I think: "Now it's over. He's here. He takes me. Now I'm dying. "People screamed. I heard that others were shot. Others jumped into the water. I was there. The mobile phone in hand. I lay on top of the legs of a girl. Thurs the 2nd was on top of my leg. I was lying. The insert in text messages. The mobile phone rang several times. I was lying. I played dead. I lay there for at least an hour. It was completely quiet. I gently turned her head to see if I could see someone live. I looked like. I saw blood. Fear. I decided to get up. I had been lying on top of a dead body. Thurs like lying to me. I had a guardian angel.


I did not know if he would come back again. I had not the courage to look at all those who had called and texted me. I hurried down to the water. I took off my sweater. It was great. I thought it would be difficult to swim to me. I considered whether I should bring my cell phone or leave it again. I put it in his back pocket and jumped into the water. I saw several others in the water. They had swum far. I saw that someone had gathered around a floating luftbåt or something like that. There were many who picked up those who swam out. I swam, swam, and swam towards the air thing. I screamed. Weep. Was cool. I thought of when I would drown. It was heavier and heavier. I asked. I continued. Was tired arms. Decided to turn my back and just use your legs to swim on. I sank. I started to swim normally again. A little while I thought they had gathered around the air boat began to move away. I screamed. Begged them to wait for me. I must have seen visions. I swam at least a few hundred meters before I arrived. We talked a little together. Did what we called, where we came from. When the boats passed us shouting for help, but they picked up the others just swam first. A man in a boat came to us. He threw out several life jackets. I got hold of one. Got it on me. I held on to the small air boat a long time until the same man came back to pick us up. All got into it. He began to run towards the shore. After a while it started small his boat to take in some water. I did everything I could to get the most water out. I used a bucket. I was exhausted. Another girl in the boat took over. We came to the country. We got blankets. Tears pressed on. I cried more. A woman hugged me. It was so good. I wept aloud. I sobbed. A man lent me his phone. I called my dad, "I live. I did it. Now I am safe. "I hung up. Cry more. We had to walk a bit. Completely unknown people took us into their cars and drove us to Sundvollen hotel. I ran in to see if I could see my best friend. I saw him at any place. I saw a friend. I cried loudly. We hugged each other for long. It was good. I walked around, looking for friends. My heart pounded. I cried more. I signed up with the police, then through all the lists. I did not know about my best friend lived. I looked through all the lists. I could not find his name anywhere. I was scared. I got a duvet. I took off my wet socks. I was half naked. Got a jacket. I tried to dial a bit. Contacted my parents again. My dad and brother were on their way to fetch me. I drank some cocoa. I sat down. Thought. Weep. So many friends. Hugged them. Weep. I borrowed a computer. Updated the Facebook and Twitter again that I was safe. I was at the hotel for several hours before my family came. I looked for familiar. I talked to a priest. I told all I had seen. It was a good call. A man from the Red Cross saw all my wounds. Cleanse them. Time passed. I was with some of my friends. All talked about the same. How we survived. What had happened. I asked several if they had seen my best friend. No one had seen him. I was scared. I thought that it was my fault because we had not managed to stay together. A friend got the key to a hotel room. We sat there, looked at the news. There was anger, sorrow, so many emotions. My dad called, they had come. I took the elevator down. Run out to them. Hugged my brother and my dad a long time. I wept aloud. My brother was crying too. It was a good moment. I saw a boy who looked like my best friend. I shouted his name. He turned around. It was him. We hugged each other for long. Both crying, we asked each other how we had managed. After a while, I registered myself and we drove home. Someone else sat in with us. My best friend was with me. His brother had come to me with his best friend. There were several who had gathered at my home. They would not go home until they had seen that I was fine. We talked a little bit. I drank a juice Gladden. Ate a yogurt. Talked some more with my mom and my family. I called my best friend. It was a good call. She said: "I was not sure if I would ever get this phone." Tears pressed on. We talked a little bit. After that I lay. It was three. Mom refused to let me sleep alone, so we slept together.


There have been several hours since all this happened. I'm still in shock. Everything has not fallen into. I have seen the corpses of my friends. Several of my friends are missing. I am glad that I can swim. I am glad that I live. For that God watched over me. There are so many emotions, so many thoughts. I think of all the relatives. In all I lost. In the hell that is and was on the island. This summer's most beautiful fairy tale is transformed into Norway's worst nightmare.

 

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NinjaguyDan said:
Mummelmann said:

Turns out that these acts were carried out by a Norwegian, an ethnic one at that. Belongs to the extreme Right Wing in Oslo and has Nazi connections. Incredible that someone can do something like this to their own brothers and sisters, your very own neighbors.

The death toll reached 17, 7 killed in the city when the bomb went off and another 10 shot and killed at Utøya or drowned as they were escaping the shooter.

I'm still speechless, was supposed to work today at a night club but they chose to close the doors at 23:00 in sympathy with the victims and loved ones. This is not a night for parties, the owner said. I could not agree more. Good night everyone!


No Way!  I thought it would be a granola eating pot smoking hippie leftist marxist communist!

/sarcasm

you do know fascism/naziism, is of the left, right?



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osamanobama said:
NinjaguyDan said:
Mummelmann said:

Turns out that these acts were carried out by a Norwegian, an ethnic one at that. Belongs to the extreme Right Wing in Oslo and has Nazi connections. Incredible that someone can do something like this to their own brothers and sisters, your very own neighbors.

The death toll reached 17, 7 killed in the city when the bomb went off and another 10 shot and killed at Utøya or drowned as they were escaping the shooter.

I'm still speechless, was supposed to work today at a night club but they chose to close the doors at 23:00 in sympathy with the victims and loved ones. This is not a night for parties, the owner said. I could not agree more. Good night everyone!


No Way!  I thought it would be a granola eating pot smoking hippie leftist marxist communist!

/sarcasm

you do know fascism/naziism, is of the left, right?

You do know that it's not, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Fascism was founded by Italian national syndicalists during World War I who combined left-wing and right-wing political views, but it gravitated to the right in the early 1920s.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

The police caught a man believed to be the accomplice. Here's his pic:

 

Source: http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article4181382.ece



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

Life ain't always fair and because you may not get what you want or your way you kill as many people as you could. It's sad to think that way. Prayer to the victims.



The suspect was identified as a 32 year old Norwegian farmer and a right-wing extremist.



sapphi_snake said:
HappySqurriel said:
Obviously, an event like this could have been prevented had Norway increased screening of native born 12 year old girls along with their grandparents.

Yeah, I'm sure increasing the screening of people of Middle Eastern descent would've prevented the blonde blue eyed Norwegian from commiting this. This event really shows why racial profiling is inherently flawed.


Where did I say anything about basing it on racial terms, or is your assumption that everyone who rejects the idea that a 12 year old girl is likely to be a terrorist is a racist?