There is no proof/evidence that the US government was involved in 9/11.
Do you believe the USA government was involved in 9/11? | |||
| Yes | 181 | 40.58% | |
| No | 201 | 45.07% | |
| Maybe | 61 | 13.68% | |
| Total: | 443 | ||
There is no proof/evidence that the US government was involved in 9/11.
Never in the history "besides 911' has a high rise steel build be brought down by fire ever, but of course during 911 "there were 3". And they just so happened to fall exactly like a demolished building. Two hours of burning is not sufficient time for the steel to be weekend to the point of collapse, not even close.
Jet fuel cannot burn at high enough temperatures to cause or even weaken the buildings. Why was there molten steel which jet fuel CANNOT cause days, weeks, and months later. Even after they pored thousands of gallons of water down there why was it still burning.
Something that can burn at high enough temperatures to melt steel and can still burn underwater is thermite. do you know what theermite can be used in, thats right demo charges. Do you know what was found at ground 0 in the dust, rubble, building 7 and at twin towers? ya thats right it was thermite.
Why have 1500 architects and engineers signed a petition for a futher investigation into 9/11
http://www.ae911truth.org/
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arcane_chaos said:
I think for all the conspiracy theorist, I recommend watching the History Channels "9/11 conspiracy: fact or fiction", they really hammered away every aspect of all the events of 9/11(from the twin towers to pentagon") coming from the 9/11 theorist, BUT they also do include their side. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1Gc_Wyotzw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SpADWOCqCs&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHZ4w8feL1g&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxa5dLSIWrM&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B3BBD6_g6U&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiSaZRmzCm8&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7MIQtPklzs&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikovKyhWGcE&feature=related videos are 1-9 in decending order though part 5 is missing..too lazy to really look for it, part 5 was more on the pentagon crash and the plane(united 93) that crashed in Pennslyvania, part 6 has a little bit of it |
you want us to believe in videos on youtube? you must be crazy man! ....oh, wait.... 
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Here's one of the biggest smoking guns for me...
The explosive squibs running down the side of the building (often occurring ahead of the demolition wave). No supporter of the official conspiracy theory has ever given me an explanation of these odd occurrences, which are perfectly explainable by explosives by the way. You can clearly see large puffs of smoke an debris shooting out like a piston out of a very concentrated area, at the rate of 100s of miles per hour. Yet nobody seems to be phased by this very clear piece of visual evidence.
The best explanation I've gotten was on the history channel, someone explained that it's simply air escaping the building, to which I laughed hysterically that they would think me that foolish and turned it off.
LOL. cube, you obviously have no idea what it actually takes to demolish a building. if these buildings were taken down by explosives there wouldnt even be a question everyone would know it. they would be able to see it and hear it, quite clearly...no ifs ands or buts even possible. so extraordinarily undeniable...i cant even put into words how stupid you sound even arguing this.
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| MrBubbles said: LOL. cube, you obviously have no idea what it actually takes to demolish a building. if these buildings were taken down by explosives there wouldnt even be a question everyone would know it. they would be able to see it and hear it, quite clearly...no ifs ands or buts even possible. so extraordinarily undeniable...i cant even put into words how stupid you sound even arguing this. |
Um, there ISN'T a question.. At least not in my mind. The only people that "question" it our obviously brainwashed by the media, which keeps pounding into our heads over and over that a plane can somehow take down a 110 story steel building in 10 seconds, despite over half the American public now believing otherwise. If you discard the offical story completly, pretend it doesn't exist... Then anyone with any sense at all would look at those buildings and the way they fell, and know explosives obviously had to bring them down. Absolutely scary how much the media can interfere with our common sense...
Again, watch this video, made by a highly regarded architect, who began a site in which 1500 architects and engineers have signed a petition to begin an independent ingestigation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b74naeawdCs
and you will see what it really takes to bring down a steel skyscraper. A building like this doesn't come down merely with gravity, ESPECIALLY at freefall aceleration. Steel is a VERY VERY strong material, relatively light, with TREMENDOUS weight bearing capacity, and doesn't even BEGIN to weaken until temperatures much greater than what we know were present in the buildings. The WTC had dozens upon dozens of large steel beams, including massive thick core columns. The floor pannels were both welded AND bolted to the outer steel columns, as well as the thick inner core. Yet people actually believe that in a blink of an eye, thousands of these bolts simply popped, and 10 floors are brought down within ONE SECOND.
Also, with regards to the explosives, there are HUNDREDS of different types of explosives, all with varying degrees of volume, flashes, destructive force, etc. You really don't think insiders within the government don't have access to some relatively silent explosives that don't emit bright flashes?
Not to mention, people DID hear them.. Litterally HUNDREDS of witnesses reported hearing and feeling explosions after, and even BEFORE the first plane hit. William Rodriguez, the last person out of the WTC, reported to hear an explosion in the basement, litterally pushing him UPWARDS, then seconds later, he heard the plane hit in the distance near the top of the building.. Again, explosion... BEFORE the plane hit! Sooo, what's the story here? Do you think this man is lying? People were reported seeing and feeling walls caving in in the basement, and getting injured and even killed by them. There was even a man in building 7 constantly hearing explosions around him (remember, NO plane hit building 7), who reportedly barely made it out alive as floors were caving in around him. This is also the same man who mysteriously died, just days before the NIST report of the Building 7 collapse was released.. Hmmm. There are litterally red flags EVERYWHERE.
Oh, and another important tidbit.. Physicist Steven Jones, actually FOUND evidence of explosive thermite residue in the WTC dust. And yes, this was throughouly tested. The particles contained the near exact footprints of thermite. No other material in the building could have given this readout.
But no... there were no explosives >_<
This stuff isn't that hard to find, people. The information is litterally AT YOUR FINGERTIPS. And it isn't just speculation. It is scientific fact. Don't take my word for it, do some research for yourselves.
| Metallicube said: Not to mention, people DID hear them.. Litterally HUNDREDS of witnesses reported hearing and feeling explosions after, and even BEFORE the first plane hit. |
Yet not one person of the thousands and thousands who worked in the Trade Center every single day has reported seeing the walls being opened up and primed with explosives.
| HappySqurriel said: Every time I see 911-truther's arguments I realize how bad the American education system is ... First off, much like how cars are engineered with crashes in mind, when large towers are designed there is a considerable effort put towards managing how the building will fail. Being that you don't want a 100 story building to tip over and spread its destruction over many blocks, most of these buildings are designed to collapse inwards and fall ontop of itself. Secondly, being that the weight of materials on tall towers is the primary stress on these buildings they're designed with a relatively small margin of error. When you (effectively) have the weight of dozens of floors falling 1 story because the structure beneath it has given way due to a fire damaging the structural integrity of the building, the force is so much greater than what the building can handle that every story will collapse as they experience this force. |
Hey now... something like 57% of French people believe Straus Khan was set up. Probably by the US because... stuff.
Conspiracy theories are everywhere and stupid. Largely based on the fact that people tend to not listen to actual people who know shit, and most of the conspiracy theory stuff is based on outright lies that can be explained just by the fact that... the stuff stated isn't true.
Me, i just generally assume any 9/11 article or post is just blatant trolling. Since the people who are writing this clearly know how to use the internet and could go to the 10 billion websites that debunk the random bullshit made up arguements that are around.
I've seen better arguements for people claiming the earth is really flat, and Nasa is lieing to us all.
The only conspiracy theory i've seen a bunch of people buy into that was dumber was Zeitgeist... and that's only because they added on two also batshit insane theoreis.
Really, great comedy here on it.
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

Here is a video of Physicist Steven Jones finding scientific evidence of thermite used in the towers. Note the footprint of the elements found in known thermite and the dust particles in the WTC are nearly EXACT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foREyW6LWsI
So yeah, I'm not sure what more some of you people need lol... Here it is, right in front of your face!