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Scoobes on 11 June 2011
Euphoria14 said:
Scoobes said:
So they've decided to completely get rid of the idea that Windows Live is actually PC based and throwing it all under the X-box Live banner. Not sure if this will actually have much of a difference other than for marketing purposes. Maybe they'll explore the idea of cross-platform play again?

Off topic a bit, anyone know how well Windows Phone 7 is doing relative to Android and iPhone OS? I didn't think it had a large marketshare.

Are the carriers strangling Windows Phone 7 at retail?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/zd/20110609/tc_zd/265378

 

Microsoft Windows Phones are getting buried at carrier's stores.

http://www.businessinsider.com/a-great-argument-for-more-microsoft-stores-2011-6

 

I have read the second link and it seems that carrier stores are kind of ignoring WP7 and most likely due to (2) main reasons.

#1.) iDevices are super popular, they won't ignore the business they bring in, not to mention awareness of these devices are so incredibly high due to so many Apple Stores along with the carriers themselves.

#2.) Android gives these carriers so much freedom when it comes to carrier branded apps and the like. They stand to make good money from these devices.

Thanks for the info. Interesting reads. Anecdotally, most people I speak to don't even know about Windows Phone 7. All they talk about is iPhone, Android or Blackberry and when I recently went looking to buy a new phone there wasn't much of a presence for Windows phones.




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Zlejedi on 11 June 2011

Sounds like a good reason to stick with Win 7 for years ;)

This is going to be as succesfull as Vista and paid for GfWL



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yo_john117 on 11 June 2011
Zlejedi said:
Sounds like a good reason to stick with Win 7 for years ;)

This is going to be as succesfull as Vista and paid for GfWL

If PC gamers don't have to pay for it then I don't see why it wouldn't be a success.



Potable_Toe on 11 June 2011

The way i read this, it sounds as they are going to include Xbox live as part of Windows in all forms except the pay-to-play-games part I.e. it will basically be a massively updated GFWL kind of thing.



mibuokami on 12 June 2011
yo_john117 said:
Zlejedi said:
Sounds like a good reason to stick with Win 7 for years ;)

This is going to be as succesfull as Vista and paid for GfWL

If PC gamers don't have to pay for it then I don't see why it wouldn't be a success.


On the contraire, the issue with GFWL is that it has and continue to be an obstacle in enjoying gaming because of poor interface, lack of intuitive functions and limitation that outweight advantages.

All that Microsoft is doing is rebranding their GfWL badge to the more popular Xbox-Live one. There is no reason why they couldn't just implimentg all these feature they are now tauting for GfWL instead, since it is essentially an inferior Xbox-live for pc (re it lacks feature).

It is in fact a smart move on Microsoft's part, but wether it is successful or not depends on what it can deliver features above and beyond what current service provider has to offer. PC gamers are generally a lot more demanding than their console cousins and Xbox-Live (like GfWL) would have to go up against the 800 pound gorilla that is Steam to gain any market share.




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yo_john117 on 12 June 2011
mibuokami said:
yo_john117 said:
Zlejedi said:
Sounds like a good reason to stick with Win 7 for years ;)

This is going to be as succesfull as Vista and paid for GfWL

If PC gamers don't have to pay for it then I don't see why it wouldn't be a success.


On the contraire, the issue with GFWL is that it has and continue to be an obstacle in enjoying gaming because of poor interface, lack of intuitive functions and limitation that outweight advantages.

All that Microsoft is doing is rebranding their GfWL badge to the more popular Xbox-Live one. There is no reason why they couldn't just implimentg all these feature they are now tauting for GfWL instead, since it is essentially an inferior Xbox-live for pc (re it lacks feature).

It is in fact a smart move on Microsoft's part, but wether it is successful or not depends on what it can deliver features above and beyond what current service provider has to offer. PC gamers are generally a lot more demanding than their console cousins and Xbox-Live (like GfWL) would have to go up against the 800 pound gorilla that is Steam to gain any market share.

Yeah I know thats the issue but if they make xbox live for the PC it will most likely be quite different.



mibuokami on 12 June 2011
yo_john117 said:
mibuokami said:
yo_john117 said:
Zlejedi said:
Sounds like a good reason to stick with Win 7 for years ;)

This is going to be as succesfull as Vista and paid for GfWL

If PC gamers don't have to pay for it then I don't see why it wouldn't be a success.


On the contraire, the issue with GFWL is that it has and continue to be an obstacle in enjoying gaming because of poor interface, lack of intuitive functions and limitation that outweight advantages.

All that Microsoft is doing is rebranding their GfWL badge to the more popular Xbox-Live one. There is no reason why they couldn't just implimentg all these feature they are now tauting for GfWL instead, since it is essentially an inferior Xbox-live for pc (re it lacks feature).

It is in fact a smart move on Microsoft's part, but wether it is successful or not depends on what it can deliver features above and beyond what current service provider has to offer. PC gamers are generally a lot more demanding than their console cousins and Xbox-Live (like GfWL) would have to go up against the 800 pound gorilla that is Steam to gain any market share.

Yeah I know thats the issue but if they make xbox live for the PC it will most likely be quite different.

I'm not arguing about the feature set, I'm arguing that just because it's free doesn't mean it will be successful. It will have to be free and have something that is either better or at least equal to the competition or have something unique. The competition being Valve's Steam and other less establish platform such as GOG, D2D, Impulse and even publisher specific stuff like EA's Origin.

I am sure that MS can create a unique exprience with their rebranded XboxLive for PC; I just doubt this unique exprience will be as free as they claim. The service itself might be 'free' but I forsee that any value added services that you usually expirience on a Gold membership on the360 (other than online play) will cost extra.

If that is the case, then Xbox-Live for window is by no mean a gaurantee success.




zarx on 12 June 2011

You know I really like how this is MS' idea of doubling down on PC gaming, not releasing more PC centric games but trying to bring over (and force onto people) something that was already rejected in the past by PC gamers....



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Don86 on 13 June 2011

I think they are just trying to use the name xbox live to trick many casual pc gamers. who aren't familiar with the difference into thinking that this is a superior service hehe.



thranx on 13 June 2011

I like how windows live is linked to xbox live, and this is even better as long as its not a seperate fee. This may bring all xbla games to the pc guys, isn't that a good thing? I also wonder if it will run iside the windows will it make it even easier to port console games to the pc? what if you could play the same disc in both? I know may not be tha case, but would be ideal. You have a standard console(360 or next xbox) that devs could code for, and a pc running the same os with variable specs (pc) to get extra horsepower/ visuals at added end user work (keeping driver updated and compatible). Maybe my heads is in the clouds this moring though. Not mention this would run across all mobile device with windows 8 right?