Clearly the lineup isn't close to ironed out yet. They didn't even show any 1st party games. And with over a year before release, pretty much every 3rd party game they announce now will be an old port by launch.

Now that I think about it, what are some big 3rd party holiday 2012 titles? I can't think of anything that's already dated.

And Sony was right behind cause of Little Big Planet finally shown off on the Vita, they succeeded on presenting the concept in a way that got me excited enough to buy a 250 dollar device for it.  You rated Nintendo fairly low and then replied to Cone with falsehoods (which happens when you use absolutes like you used in your statements) just because he gave Nintendo a 9, you know cause they presented new hardware with some third party exclusives, and demos of how new concepts could come to life with the design, there was no real reason to call someone out on that but again it's really whatever no one really cares >_>

wow what were you watching and thining

1. the graphics are superior already in stuff seen that was showing them off. 

2. online can be easily passed up.  psn and xbox live are pathetic online experiences compared to the hudnreds of different kind on computers.  so nintendo could easily have some way to pass them up. 

3. the wii u will be out before the other systems.  Thus since they have the multiplat games as well, that means WHEN those systems come out, you will be asking the same thing.  Why get a 720 or ps4 when i c an get all those games on my Wii U. 

4.  core aspects?  what core aspects.  you mean it plays games in hd?  the Wii U is about the new controller.  that is what will sell the system.  If the ps4 and 720 come out with only improved cpu and gpu or power they WILL FAIL. 

Nothing I said was false, they showed nothing but SS for the Wii, the cafe looks underwhelming, even most Nintendo fans admit this, and getting 3rd party games that have been coming out on PS360 for the last, oh I dunno, entire gen, is not a coup.

While I agree with you, I disagree that cafe looks underwhelming (the product, not the conference about the product). After watching the Zelda Tech Demo, they showcased, I think far from it. 

all those games people would have played already, and by next year there will be announcements of ps3 and 360 successors. i dont think anyone will jump ship i know i certainly wont as theres no point

seriously those games they showed sure won't be as good as real Wii U games, to me they looked like PS3/360 ports

Far too early to be judging now but if they are capable of 360/PS3 graphics as first gen games but at 1080p/60fps then we are in for a sort of treat until the next-box and PS4 come out.

So why are people making the assumptions that the games that will release with the system have already been announced? I doubt third parties are only planning on releasing ports for the system. Chances are that they are adapting the games they have in development now for the Wii 2 since it's much easier than going straight into developing for the Wii 2 specifically, with the limited time they've had with it(I doubt it is more than a few months.) Like every generation there will be many ports of games in development for the current/previous generations before the bulk of the new software is released. This happened with the 360 and PS3 just the same as it is going to happen with Wii 2, and if they're announced soon enough PS360's successors. We have yet to see any announcement for Nintendo first party games, and with a Nintendo console that is what MATTERS in my opinion.

this sums it up.