Like commentary like because this launched the japanese numbers were up, and bc of this holiday shops were closed for these days and showing a drop in sales for these consoles then etc.
"Like you know"
Dear Ioi,
I'd start by caring more about users.
I once had a member insulting me in the forum and before getting into an argument since I liked the site and didn't want to end banned with him, I decided to report through a PM to you. Not only that member was never even called the attention but you simply didn't answer to my two messages.
On the one hand I do appreciate the effort and vision put into this, and after 11 years doing successful website based businesses I believe I could give you my two cents on how to evolve this site. Still I wonder why should I help a guy that's arrogant enough not to answer to 2 PMs.
At some point I would have considered even offering to invest money in this site, had the opportunity arisen, but after seeing you don't answer to email I thought I wouldn't waste my time (nor my money) on a most probably random, rude, or simply non-existant reply.
I know that you have some very fanatic supporters and I'll be just getting some hate for this, but I think I can cope with it. In the meantime I keep on enjoying what's good of this site and I guess I'll someday click on one of those adsense ads so you get something in return.
Besides, overall, IMNSHO your ideas sound quite right. Let's see if execution make them justice.
Still I think you might be missing a big opportunity to make this a really good business. Specially considering general interest in sales will most probably go sharply down as this console gen advances and makers start consolidating their final position.
In the almost impossible case that a technical issue didn't allow you to read my PMs and the behaviour reported is something you have never ever been guilty of, then I'd take back my criticism.
In any case I wish you good luck in this next step for vgchartz, I think it is a very good initiative with a lot of well focused effort put into it and it deserves growing.
Best regards
| Avinash_Tyagi said: Well VGchartz is being used by more sites in its news so word is getting out, maybe VGC should issue more PR releases on the data, like when companies fail to meet their goals |
That would be great, but I'm pretty sure lots of companies don't release their sales targets to the public.
| albhum said: Dear Ioi, I'd start by caring more about users. I once had a member insulting me in the forum and before getting into an argument since I liked the site and didn't want to end banned with him, I decided to report through a PM to you. Not only that member was never even called the attention but you simply didn't answer to my two messages. On the one hand I do appreciate the effort and vision put into this, and after 11 years doing successful website based businesses I believe I could give you my two cents on how to evolve this site. Still I wonder why should I help a guy that's arrogant enough not to answer to 2 PMs. At some point I would have considered even offering to invest money in this site, had the opportunity arisen, but after seeing you don't answer to email I thought I wouldn't waste my time (nor my money) on a most probably random, rude, or simply non-existant reply. I know that you have some very fanatic supporters and I'll be just getting some hate for this, but I think I can cope with it. In the meantime I keep on enjoying what's good of this site and I guess I'll someday click on one of those adsense ads so you get something in return. Besides, overall, IMNSHO your ideas sound quite right. Let's see if execution make them justice. Still I think you might be missing a big opportunity to make this a really good business. Specially considering general interest in sales will most probably go sharply down as this console gen advances and makers start consolidating their final position. In the almost impossible case that a technical issue didn't allow you to read my PMs and the behaviour reported is something you have never ever been guilty of, then I'd take back my criticism. In any case I wish you good luck in this next step for vgchartz, I think it is a very good initiative with a lot of well focused effort put into it and it deserves growing. Best regards |
I can understand your frustration, but is it really ioi's job to go trailing round banning people? The running of the site is a big task to undertake, which is why there are other moderators for that kind of thing; I highly doubt ioi would be making a topic such as this and taking great interest in improving the website if he didnt care about the users or their opinions.
ON TOPIC: I like the majority of the suggestions so far; especially an earlier suggestion about monitoring game ratings because its ridiculous that games that arent even released are voted upon. I suppose as people have suggested, implementing user reviews would remove this so Im all for them.
Kudos points seems like a great idea but if its going to be used alot of monitoring is gonna be necessary otherwise the system will get abused which is clearly not what anyone wants.
An improved site design would be nice, but nothing major; touch up seems sufficient.
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned for Sega. - Jason Lee, Mallrats.
http://theaveragejoe.sportsblognet.com/ - Mainly American Football, snippets of Basketball, European Football and Hockey.
| ioi said: Hmmmm... some interesting points here. - Finally, a better and more integrated prediction "game". I like the idea of everybody starting with a sum of money and being able to bet however much they want on certain predictions. This would add more depth to the whole "game", and would be less restrictive and take less admin than the current system. So each week for each game the user can make a prediction as to how much it will sell in a particular region in the following week. If enough users participate we can produce weekly top 50s or whatever (predicted) and these can be compared to actuals when they are available. This would encourage users to visit the game pages more, use the comparison tools more, wouldn't limit you to having to predict 10 games each week and could be fully automated. I think by going down these routes, we manage to offer enough for you guys to hopefully want to stay here and not leave, whilst keeping the site unique and simple and concentrating on what is most important to us all - the sales figures. |
I agree whole-heartedly with everything on there, but the bold areas are of particular interest. I think that these two features would actually make the site explode with new members. Integrate those two for sure if you do anything.
What VGChartz means to me:
Intelligent discussion based on the most important aspect of any console war, sales, and how it influences trends in the industry, especially during these landmark transitions.
A gaming community that I can go without worrying about sifting through mounds of biased trolling posts or mindless "list" topics.
A place where I can see the absolute influence of gaming product without the guesses. Seeing what works and what does not in what regions and put an end to all the media spin. These are the results. The bottom line, and without seeing that, there is no way to tell for sure what is going on in any other segment of the industry.
No thoughts about my comments ioi .....
Oh well. Keep up the good work!
A bit off topic, but what is with the GIGANTIC amount of question mark silhouette avatars floating around?
On topic:
The database! The database! This requires your attention!
I wrote a review for Zoo Tycoon and Final Fantasy 9 and they're both gone!
GONNNNNNNEEEEEEE!!!!!!
Sorry, I'm a bit tired.
Ioi,
Fair enough. You do have 2 PM of mine, but they are much older than November, from the 16th and 18th of June to be precise. Your reply shows you are not the arrogant guy I feared.
About the site, I see two lines of business:
1. The site as it is, a site for people like myself that like videogames and numbers from which you have to live on traffic: The important thing that many pointed out in one form or another is to keep this site DATA centric. Everything data centric will fit. Metacritic model is the way to go for the reviews. A game database ala IMDB too. A forecasting game like HSX too. Network? bah... I don't like how networking is getting everywhere as if it were the holy grail of websites. If done carefully and in a second level, fine. But I'd never try to convert VGChartz into another "me too" network centric site. As I said i think your intuition is quite on track for it.
2. The data collection and PROJECTION: You and a few very involved guys in this site are learning to be quite good crunching numbers and related data, and differently from professional data crunchers all of you like the gaming industry which is an advantage when it comes to "smelling" what's to come (fanboyism aside, of course). I worked as a Territory Manager for Gartner/Dataquest, and from what I know from inside the biggest service in statistics and projections of the IT industry, you guys are nearer to good, "sellable" data than you believe (and I know you believe it a lot already). And a few companies are very willing to pay for that data. Specially for projections. There it is the opportunity. You can break the business model NPD is abusing. Somehow you already started doing it... That's what I like best of this site. If you are interested in how this idea could be implemented I can go into further detail in a PM. I promise I'll answer 
cheers,
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