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maverick40 said:
blkfish92 said:

 Hence, Final Fantasy XIII became the biggest disappointment this generation. So the firm needs some kind of “redemption” so to speak, and maybe, just maybe, a Final Fantasy VII remake announcement at Sony’s presser will save it.

Because Deus Ex: Human Revolution just don’t have the strength to accomplish such a fit, nor does Tomb Raider.

http://www.gamesthirst.com/2011/06/01/rumor-water-final-fantasy-vii-is-coming-to-e3-at-sonys-press-conference/


I really don't see why ff 13 is reviered as one of the biggest dissapointments this gen, it's actually an amazing game, and an amazing final fantasy.

Even though it may be linear it definitely is a great game and doesn't deserve to be bashed on by so many people.

Compared to other final fantasies it doesnt cut it I am afraid. The good reviews were from hype alone. The majority of gamers hated the game.

Nowhere near the majority I'm afraid, just look at the user review scores on websites like Gamespot and Metacritic. The majority of user reviews were extremely positive, and a small selection of the reviews were extremely negative. In the end, the game gets a lot of hate basically "cus it haz no townz", I don't mind people criticising that, it did bother and for some people it is game breaking, I can understand that, but what I don't appreciate is people going out of their way just to put the game down trolling every FFXIII thread they can find, they usually lie about other aspects of the game aswell to make it seem even worse.



hatmoza said:

fab ... you break my heart. I give it to you, and you stomp on it

And don't you dare say a word hatmoza!

We all know what you're like. xD



blkfish92 said:
maverick40 said:
blkfish92 said:

 Hence, Final Fantasy XIII became the biggest disappointment this generation. So the firm needs some kind of “redemption” so to speak, and maybe, just maybe, a Final Fantasy VII remake announcement at Sony’s presser will save it.

Because Deus Ex: Human Revolution just don’t have the strength to accomplish such a fit, nor does Tomb Raider.

http://www.gamesthirst.com/2011/06/01/rumor-water-final-fantasy-vii-is-coming-to-e3-at-sonys-press-conference/


I really don't see why ff 13 is reviered as one of the biggest dissapointments this gen, it's actually an amazing game, and an amazing final fantasy.

Even though it may be linear it definitely is a great game and doesn't deserve to be bashed on by so many people.

Compared to other final fantasies it doesnt cut it I am afraid. The good reviews were from hype alone. The majority of gamers hated the game.


Those gamers are simply angry from the change of the usual giant world map to a linear westernized game, ff 13 is a great final fantasy, and the good reviews aren't from hype it can't be the story is great, graphics top notch, gameplay great.

Gets me wondering as to really why so much hatred towards ff 13?

Ever stop to think it was because it was just that bad?  When something is really good or really bad, there's usually a consensus. In FFXIII's case I believe the new audience of gamers are what made the opinions of this game so polarizing. You have the new generation of gamers who have absolutely no idea what a good JRPG is (pro xiii), and  gamers who played enough JRPGs to know that FF XIII is not even in the same ballpark with other true RPGs and JRPGs that can't even compete with XIII visuals, but make up for that with a game with good mechanics/systems, exploration, story, and above all: FUN!

Conflicting opinions are usually a good sign that something is not right. That's how wars start :P

Also, the reviews weren't that great. I'm pretty sure, and someone correct me of I'm wrong, that FFXIII has the lowest metacritic score of the FF main franchise.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

hatmoza said:
blkfish92 said:
maverick40 said:
blkfish92 said:

 Hence, Final Fantasy XIII became the biggest disappointment this generation. So the firm needs some kind of “redemption” so to speak, and maybe, just maybe, a Final Fantasy VII remake announcement at Sony’s presser will save it.

Because Deus Ex: Human Revolution just don’t have the strength to accomplish such a fit, nor does Tomb Raider.

http://www.gamesthirst.com/2011/06/01/rumor-water-final-fantasy-vii-is-coming-to-e3-at-sonys-press-conference/


I really don't see why ff 13 is reviered as one of the biggest dissapointments this gen, it's actually an amazing game, and an amazing final fantasy.

Even though it may be linear it definitely is a great game and doesn't deserve to be bashed on by so many people.

Compared to other final fantasies it doesnt cut it I am afraid. The good reviews were from hype alone. The majority of gamers hated the game.


Those gamers are simply angry from the change of the usual giant world map to a linear westernized game, ff 13 is a great final fantasy, and the good reviews aren't from hype it can't be the story is great, graphics top notch, gameplay great.

Gets me wondering as to really why so much hatred towards ff 13?

Ever stop to think it was because it was just that bad?  When something is really good or really bad, there's usually a consensus. In FFXIII's case I believe the new audience of gamers is what made the opinions of this game so polarizing. You have the new generation of gamers who have absolutely no idea what a good JRPG is (pro xiii), and  gamers who played enough JRPGs to know that FF XIII is not even in the same ballpark with other true RPGs and JRPGs that can't even compete with XIII visuals, but make up for that with a game with good mechanics/systems, exploration, story, and above all: FUN!

Conflicting opinions is usually a good sign that something is not right. That's how wars start :P

Also, the reviews weren't that great. I'm pretty sure, and someone correct me of I'm wrong, that FFXIII has the lowest metacritic score of the FF main franchise.


The lowest, big whoop it has an 83 meta, which is pretty good and it deserves those scores as it's not the best final fantasy out there, but it's in fact a good game which its meta proves.

All in all, 13 doesn't deserve the bashing as it's a great game and a great rpg.



           

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brendude13 said:
maverick40 said:
blkfish92 said:

 Hence, Final Fantasy XIII became the biggest disappointment this generation. So the firm needs some kind of “redemption” so to speak, and maybe, just maybe, a Final Fantasy VII remake announcement at Sony’s presser will save it.

Because Deus Ex: Human Revolution just don’t have the strength to accomplish such a fit, nor does Tomb Raider.

http://www.gamesthirst.com/2011/06/01/rumor-water-final-fantasy-vii-is-coming-to-e3-at-sonys-press-conference/


I really don't see why ff 13 is reviered as one of the biggest dissapointments this gen, it's actually an amazing game, and an amazing final fantasy.

Even though it may be linear it definitely is a great game and doesn't deserve to be bashed on by so many people.

Compared to other final fantasies it doesnt cut it I am afraid. The good reviews were from hype alone. The majority of gamers hated the game.

Nowhere near the majority I'm afraid, just look at the user review scores on websites like Gamespot and Metacritic. The majority of user reviews were extremely positive, and a small selection of the reviews were extremely negative. In the end, the game gets a lot of hate basically "cus it haz no townz", I don't mind people criticising that, it did bother and for some people it is game breaking, I can understand that, but what I don't appreciate is people going out of their way just to put the game down trolling every FFXIII thread they can find, they usually lie about other aspects of the game aswell to make it seem even worse.


It's not just towns, exploration in general. I personally don't enjoy beating the same linear path for 20-30 hours before I can do anything outside the main story. That's how games become repetitive and boring. There needs to be an option to take a break from the main story. Imagine if the new Zelda game came out without being able to do any of its charming mini games until you were near the end of the game. I'm pretty sure Zelda fans would be disappointed with the change.

And we don't lie or troll. It's arguments based on opinion, and sometimes facts. The game just doesn't live up to previous FFs, or current RPGs.

I strongly doubt that such a large voice on the internet are sharing their disappointment/dislike/even hatred towards the game just to troll. If anything, it's a sign of just how disappointing the game is.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

hatmoza said:
blkfish92 said:
maverick40 said:
blkfish92 said:

 Hence, Final Fantasy XIII became the biggest disappointment this generation. So the firm needs some kind of “redemption” so to speak, and maybe, just maybe, a Final Fantasy VII remake announcement at Sony’s presser will save it.

Because Deus Ex: Human Revolution just don’t have the strength to accomplish such a fit, nor does Tomb Raider.

http://www.gamesthirst.com/2011/06/01/rumor-water-final-fantasy-vii-is-coming-to-e3-at-sonys-press-conference/


I really don't see why ff 13 is reviered as one of the biggest dissapointments this gen, it's actually an amazing game, and an amazing final fantasy.

Even though it may be linear it definitely is a great game and doesn't deserve to be bashed on by so many people.

Compared to other final fantasies it doesnt cut it I am afraid. The good reviews were from hype alone. The majority of gamers hated the game.


Those gamers are simply angry from the change of the usual giant world map to a linear westernized game, ff 13 is a great final fantasy, and the good reviews aren't from hype it can't be the story is great, graphics top notch, gameplay great.

Gets me wondering as to really why so much hatred towards ff 13?

Ever stop to think it was because it was just that bad?  When something is really good or really bad, there's usually a consensus. In FFXIII's case I believe the new audience of gamers are what made the opinions of this game so polarizing. You have the new generation of gamers who have absolutely no idea what a good JRPG is (pro xiii), and  gamers who played enough JRPGs to know that FF XIII is not even in the same ballpark with other true RPGs and JRPGs that can't even compete with XIII visuals, but make up for that with a game with good mechanics/systems, exploration, story, and above all: FUN!

Conflicting opinions are usually a good sign that something is not right. That's how wars start :P

Also, the reviews weren't that great. I'm pretty sure, and someone correct me of I'm wrong, that FFXIII has the lowest metacritic score of the FF main franchise.

You are wrong! This is because FFXIV has the lowest metacritic score of the FF main franchise with a 49. :P



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hatmoza said:
brendude13 said:
maverick40 said:
blkfish92 said:

 Hence, Final Fantasy XIII became the biggest disappointment this generation. So the firm needs some kind of “redemption” so to speak, and maybe, just maybe, a Final Fantasy VII remake announcement at Sony’s presser will save it.

Because Deus Ex: Human Revolution just don’t have the strength to accomplish such a fit, nor does Tomb Raider.

http://www.gamesthirst.com/2011/06/01/rumor-water-final-fantasy-vii-is-coming-to-e3-at-sonys-press-conference/


I really don't see why ff 13 is reviered as one of the biggest dissapointments this gen, it's actually an amazing game, and an amazing final fantasy.

Even though it may be linear it definitely is a great game and doesn't deserve to be bashed on by so many people.

Compared to other final fantasies it doesnt cut it I am afraid. The good reviews were from hype alone. The majority of gamers hated the game.

Nowhere near the majority I'm afraid, just look at the user review scores on websites like Gamespot and Metacritic. The majority of user reviews were extremely positive, and a small selection of the reviews were extremely negative. In the end, the game gets a lot of hate basically "cus it haz no townz", I don't mind people criticising that, it did bother and for some people it is game breaking, I can understand that, but what I don't appreciate is people going out of their way just to put the game down trolling every FFXIII thread they can find, they usually lie about other aspects of the game aswell to make it seem even worse.


It's not just towns, exploration in general. I personally don't enjoy beating the same linear path for 20-30 hours before I can do anything outside the main story. That's how games become repetitive and boring. There needs to be an option to take a break from the main story. Imagine if the new Zelda game came out without being able to do any of its charming mini games until you were near the end of the game. I'm pretty sure Zelda fans would be disappointed with the change.

And we don't lie or troll. It's arguments based on opinion, and sometimes facts. The game just doesn't live up to previous FFs, or current RPGs.

I strongly doubt that such a large voice on the internet are sharing their disappointment/dislike/even hatred towards the game just to troll. If anything, it's a sign of just how disappointing the game is.

I hate repetitive games, and while the repetitiveness of Final Fantasy XIII did bother me, it didn't bother me enough, I was concentrating far too hard on the story and the battles to even care, the game worked really well in short bursts and it kept me coming back for more.

When I played through Zelda I didn't touch any of the mini games, I'm not that kind of person, I don't like distractions. In the end, it's all about preference, some people can't stand linearity, others can't stand change, because FFXIII tried something new, I LOVED the fresh experience and it makes it a very memorable game. Lack of change is what is beginning to piss me off about gaming, developers just recycle the old formula and are too scared to change anything.

Square Enix were brave in what they did in FFXIII, they completely changed it, made it like no other game. The game wasn't perfect and it let some people down, especially hardcore FF fans, this was expected though, just like FFXII.

And I have seen plenty of people lie, they feel the game doesn't get enough hate so they start pulling things out their ass such as "the battle system is terrible" "the soundtrack is terrible", this could be down to their backwards opinion, but I highly doubt it, they just want to spread more hate.

And there are far too many people that intentionally go into an FFXIII thread (not so much on VGChartz) just to say "THIS GAME IS SHIT". You do this a lot, but you do it lightheartedly, so I find it more amusing rather than irritating.

And only those people found the game dissapointing, hell even I found the game dissapointing, but it's still one of my favourite games this gen. A lot of people enjoyed the game, it seems people's opinion of this game are at opposite ends of the scale.

With so much hate the game gets, Final Fantasy XIII manage to keep a metacritic score of 83 from both professional reviews and user reviewers, I thought it would be much lower to be honest.



even if sony annouced this as a ps3 exclusive people would still claim it would go multiplat till the day it comes out same thing that is/going to happen with versus