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blkfish92 said:


I find that extremely hard to believe actually, is that really true?

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/history-of-final-fantasy/61856

at about 3.30 mins, they start taking about how FF13 is more like an FPS.

i've read other interviews (but cant remember where) about how Modern Warfare 2 and Lost were used to inspire the game. the point is that the game was never designed to be an RPG - it was designed to be a werid synthesis of (what the team think) were the best elements avaliable in popular media and put them into one melting pot. this is why Leonia Lewis was used - they thought that by putting all these elements together they would create something unique.

unlike FF12 before it, i dont consider FF13 as an RPG. and i'm sure they've stated at some point it was never designed with the RPG template - but something new altogether.

and from the post-morterm of the game we know that the development team was disfunctional and disjointed - with no clear aim of what the game was meant to be. unlike FF12, which came before - FF12 was at least designed to be a hardcore JRPG experience. both games had problems, but FF13's problems are down to incompetance and FF12s problems are down to partly incompetance and partly over allocation of insufficent resources.

and it dosent end there. the development team behind FF13 are also the same team responsible for FF8, FF7 compilation (bad games like Dirge of Cerberus), FF10-2, FF13, The 3rd Birthday and the soon to be failure (imo) FF13-2. even the trailer looks bad. their successes have been built on the shoulders of Hinorobu Sakaguchi, who was heavily involved with FF6, FF7 and FF10 while in command of production team 1.

based on their past games, past interviews, and the expectations of the FF series after FF12, i dont think the team understood that FF has to be a dense RPG experience.



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A203D said:
blkfish92 said:
 


I find that extremely hard to believe actually, is that really true?

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/history-of-final-fantasy/61856

at about 3.30 mins, they start taking about how FF13 is more like an FPS.

i've read other interviews (but cant remember where) about how Modern Warfare 2 and Lost were used to inspire the game. the point is that the game was never designed to be an RPG - it was designed to be a werid synthesis of (what the team think) were the best elements avaliable in popular media and put them into one melting pot. this is why Leonia Lewis was used - they thought that by putting all these elements together they would create something unique.

unlike FF12 before it, i dont consider FF13 as an RPG. and i'm sure they've stated at some point it was never designed with the RPG template - but something new altogether.

and from the post-morterm of the game we know that the development team was disfunctional and disjointed - with no clear aim of what the game was meant to be. unlike FF12, which came before - FF12 was at least designed to be a hardcore JRPG experience. both games had problems, but FF13's problems are down to incompetance and FF12s problems are down to partly incompetance and partly over allocation of insufficent resources.

and it dosent end there. the development team behind FF13 are also the same team responsible for FF8, FF7 compilation (bad games like Dirge of Cerberus), FF10-2, FF13, The 3rd Birthday and the soon to be failure (imo) FF13-2. even the trailer looks bad. their successes have been built on the shoulders of Hinorobu Sakaguchi, who was heavily involved with FF6, FF7 and FF10 while in command of production team 1.

based on their past games, past interviews, and the expectations of the FF series after FF12, i dont think the team understood that FF has to be a dense RPG experience.


Yes I see your point now, but don't go saying you don't consider it an rpg, it is an rpg, but I agree with that it's a mess of an rpg. It's a shame that Hinorobu Sakaguchi isn't involved anymore really.

Also, dirge of cerberus was indeed horrible, but ff 13 isn't neccesarilly horrible either it's definitely not an amazing final fantasy compared to the past others like 7 or 10, but it's still an alright game. IMO it's a sturdy 8 or 8.5 being the highest of course, I was also dissappointed with the 13-2 trailer as it looked a little to much of the same as 13, yet again it was only a teaser, hope for the best I suppose even if the best wont be to much.



           

blkfish92 said:


Yes I see your point now, but don't go saying you don't consider it an rpg, it is an rpg, but I agree with that it's a mess of an rpg. It's a shame that Hinorobu Sakaguchi isn't involved anymore really.

Also, dirge of cerberus was indeed horrible, but ff 13 isn't neccesarilly horrible either it's definitely not an amazing final fantasy compared to the past others like 7 or 10, but it's still an alright game. IMO it's a sturdy 8 or 8.5 being the highest of course, I was also dissappointed with the 13-2 trailer as it looked a little to much of the same as 13, yet again it was only a teaser, hope for the best I suppose even if the best wont be to much

I dont know tbh, to me its unacceptable to release a game like this with the FF name on the box. FF12 had its problems, but it was a dense RPG experience. the production team have learned nothing from the other teams efforts with FF12 and its a horrible mess of an RPG.

i think Dirge of Cerberus is horrible for the same reason The 3rd Birthday is horrible - the development team just dont know what their doing. and i think it will be reflected in FF13-2. i just cant see this sequel being good after something like FF10-2, which was made by the same team. okay the gameplay was cool, but the story and characters were cringeworthy in FF10-2. i just dont think this particular team are learning and adapting their game design methodology. and this is why i think FF13-2 will bomb hard!!



A203D said:
blkfish92 said:
 


Yes I see your point now, but don't go saying you don't consider it an rpg, it is an rpg, but I agree with that it's a mess of an rpg. It's a shame that Hinorobu Sakaguchi isn't involved anymore really.

Also, dirge of cerberus was indeed horrible, but ff 13 isn't neccesarilly horrible either it's definitely not an amazing final fantasy compared to the past others like 7 or 10, but it's still an alright game. IMO it's a sturdy 8 or 8.5 being the highest of course, I was also dissappointed with the 13-2 trailer as it looked a little to much of the same as 13, yet again it was only a teaser, hope for the best I suppose even if the best wont be to much

I dont know tbh, to me its unacceptable to release a game like this with the FF name on the box. FF12 had its problems, but it was a dense RPG experience. the production team have learned nothing from the other teams efforts with FF12 and its a horrible mess of an RPG.

i think Dirge of Cerberus is horrible for the same reason The 3rd Birthday is horrible - the development team just dont know what their doing. and i think it will be reflected in FF13-2. i just cant see this sequel being good after something like FF10-2, which was made by the same team. okay the gameplay was cool, but the story and characters were cringeworthy in FF10-2. i just dont think this particular team are learning and adapting their game design methodology. and this is why i think FF13-2 will bomb hard!!

Well I doubt it will bomb as it holds that household final fantasy name, it should sell well even if it gets "below average" ratings.



           

If anything, it will be for the ngp. I hope it is true, although I know it isn't...



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Why release ff7 remake so late in this console gen now, Wouldn't you guys much rather wait till ps4 or xbox3??



Lyrikalstylez said:
Why release ff7 remake so late in this console gen now, Wouldn't you guys much rather wait till ps4 or xbox3??


It's fine really the ps3's graphics capabilities are good enough what more can you want? I also doubt an ff7 remake would happen now either way, but it would make sence as it would make square enix some much needed cash inflow.



           

Where was Square at the press conference!?!!?!?!