But there are people who have the exact same upbringing and sorroudings, yet wind up being totally different in many aspects. Your point still fails.

I agree with that. I've always preffered tomboys myself. Girly girls are very unappealing. Of course that doesn't mean I dislike the company of people who are more effeminate (effeminate men, or girly girls). I only discriminate when it comes to romance.

no, even identical twins raised in the same family will have differences in how they are rasied or recieved by people. In fact from birth one would be first and one second.

yea i love read heads.

as for the firts paragraph id say its spot on, well both are spot on

i never thought about it. as long as a women is clean and works and not to in to her self then shes ago.

not to girly yea thats it.

This may be so, but what are the elements which make a person start finding people of their own sex attractive? Plus, the ideea is that mainstream society has never supported or encouraged people to find others of the same sex as thesemlves sexually attractive. What about two people who come from totally different environments and have totally different upbringings, and yet are both gay?

not really. across all psychology a lot of behaviour comes from our environment. homosexuality almost definitely has something to do with self-scheme and environment imo.

for example i would say that men who possess more of/stronger characteristics of: being protective, mature, serious etc are more likely to be straight

men who are more party animal, live in the moment, banterous, fashion conscious etc are more likely to be gay

yes it's stereotypical, but c'mon. we all know gay guys are more likely to be in designer clothes with their hair styled to the side and all. If someone says 'gay guy' to you, what do you think of? That schema comes from real life experience

You're viewes have no scientific backing whatsoever. That schema doesn't come from real life experience, it's a cultural myth perpetuated by the media.

Men who find other men attractive are in no way effeminate by definition (a historical look at such individuals defeats your point). Also, where do those characteristics that you mentioned (being protecitive, being a party animal etc.) come from, and how do they make a guy become sexually attracted to other men.

i and many others personally notice that gays are usually funny, fashionable, qwerky, etc. sometimes you can be 90% sure of someone's sexuality just by looking at them

going on the basis that we are all bi to some degree, just say we have two men; both are 50/50 bi.

man 1 has been brought up in a traditional, religious background. he has been taught a lot of history, does not swear, does not watch reality tv etc

man 2 has been brought up in a free environment, likes to party, likes bouncing music, swears etc

i think that man 2 is more likely to opt for gay relationships because his lifestyle and the way he has been brought up identifies with the typical 'gay' image more

its late at night here, im very tired, and im spacing out to some good house music here, so im probably getting my point across horribly here. basically, you choose things in life that you feel identify with your personality (and your personality is part based on your environment). for example if i saw myself as a gangster, i am more likely to wear a slick suit than someone who does not see themselves as a gangster