Well, it depends who's at fault. While the PSN obviously didn't have the security to keep anon out, would you blame someone for having their house broken into even when they shut their windows and locked their doors?  I think it's incredibly unfair to blame Sony becuase an outside force attacked them and succeeded.  Anonymous and whoever else is responsible for this made a conscious decision to hack the system and leak the information. the fact of the matter is that it was THEIR fault.  

the RRoD was Microsoft's fault for putting out a shoddy console.  

completely different situations.  Which is worse from a company angle?  definitely red ring.  which is worse from a consumer angle?  probably the PSN thing, but only becuase of the identity stuff, the PSN being down is a nonissue. 

I still think its unfair to hate on Sony becuase an outside force had to use all their abilities to hack their system. Don't people know how hackers work?  if they wanted to, they could get access to XBL just as easily, and have in the past if I'm not mistaken. 

That's like asking whether you'd rather be shot or stabbed to death.  RROD and the PSN outage are both pretty shameful and annoying.

Actually, whenever you get the RRoD and send it in to MS you get a free month of Live. And last time I got RRoD it only took 3 days till I got my console back(not mine, but whatever)

I totally get what you are saying, and I almost agree with you.  You can't fault them for being hacked.  They had security measures in place but everyone knows that eventually, if they are determined enough, hackers are going to win.  I don't think it's that big a deal that they got hacked in the first place.  What is a big deal is how ridiculously long it has taken them to deal with the situation and how badly they have botched the PR aspect of it.  How did they not have some sort of plan in place for a contingency like this?  On top of that they went and made promises they couldn't keep about when the service would be back up before they even knew all the details of the situation.

To use your analogy, no one would fault you if a burglar smashed your window, broke in, and robbed you.  But if you leave the broken window shards laying on the floor, tell your wife you're gonna call a repair guy in 5 minutes, and then wait 17 days while the wind blows through the window, you are kind of stupid.

What about your info and trust for the company to protect your information? I agree RROD is worse but I also think people that are not hardcore, Look at this issue as a major problem.

RROD got a whole sh=t load of attention, What are you talking about? They had to put down a billion dollars because of it. So your idea that it didn't get covered is just a joke. plus this psn outage effects everyone and not just random people who got a answer exactly what to do and where to do it.  So I agree RROD is worse just because of the media attention and non playing issue but MS handled it like a pro and made sure the customer was taken care of.

As far as calling out people on this site as fanboys. I think you should be banned.

Something no one brought up was that this outage effects everyone on the PSN network. Thats a hell a lot more then what RROD effected. So I think we would have to take that into consideration as well. I think RROD is worse because it had a lot of attention, actually non stop attention. you couldn't go on any of these sites without two articles claiming this or that. Yahoo had it. Local news , all over the place. Rightfully so that it should be that way. MS Screwed up but I think handled it like a pro. Fixed the problem and saved the most detrimental console issue to date from being a massive snowball effect.

So I think only time will tell but new buyers well be the people asking about the security of the psn network and they should, as they should ask if MS fixed there problem.  So it comes down to how Sony handle's this and to me they have done a horrible job.  Thats where it counts. Just like the ps2 issue's, thats another issue they never acknoledged. One reason why I think so many ended up going to xbox this gen.

Really? I never heard about that free month of Live deal. All I heard back in the early years were people getting RRoD, shipping their consoles to Microsoft, and getting a new or refurbished one back a week or more later. I also remember a lot of people just buying new consoles and having to pay a lot out of pocket over this whole debacle. Then in 08 or so they upped their service as far as I recall.

Did you not have to pay a single dime when dealing with your RRoD? What years did this happen for you?

It changed somewhere in there. When there were a lot of people with RRoD it took awhile a longer and was completely free for you(Took me about two weeks in 06 and 07). A little faster in 08. Then sometime in '10 (I believe) they changed it so you sent it in(You have to pay for the box if you didn't have one, they still paid for shipping), and it only took a couple days at most. 

And for as long as I can remember they always sent you a free month of Live 

Edit: I should explain more. When it first started they sent you a box, but to make it faster they stopped that, and you were in charge of finding a box and whatnot 

question.  how did RROD affect other companies.

there is a topic about capcom loosing hundreds of thousands of dollars or even millions.  Did RROD do that to them?

If i was to look at RROD I would imagine all it did was annoy customers that it affected and made microsoft have to spend lots of money fixing it.  i'm sure it acutally created some jobs fixing.

yes psn probably created a few jobs fixing as well, BUT it affected more than just sony, unlike RROD only affected microsoft.

With PSN down, companies are not making money on psn games.  They still have psn employees tha thtey have to pay, or else NOT pay.  So there are two cases 

1. ZERO revenue expenses 

2. Zero revenue and no expenses,  but in the case of no expenses it means all those employees that work on their psn stuff are making zero income during the psn outage.  so for a month or more all these employees are jobless.  

you guys have to quit being so selfish and thinking only of you.  in terms of consumer, neihter is really anythign to give a shit about.  "ooh dang, i have no online for a couple weeks or no xbox for a couple weeks"  there is no cost to you.

BUT PSN is costing other companies hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars in missed revenue and in expenses.