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I don't really care since Im not White (im Mexican) But honestly there isn't any official white culture or race since most white people here in the US are a mix of other cultures from the Old World that developed a change-with a permanent white skin tone due to climate changes.

If I can recall, America was comprised of people of Welsh, German, Irsh and British decent. Besides, some (not all or most, but some) seemed to have forgotten where they came from; and parents seem to don't enforce it to the new generation at all. But again, this is probably just a fraction.



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highwaystar101 said:

Forget it. This isn't worth the conflict!

Wait a minute. This was a reply to me originally, wasn't it?

(I got an indication someone had replied to one of my posts in this thread)



sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:
Khuutra said:
pizzahut451 said:

DEATH TO GLOBALIZATION. Every race should have its own identity and should NEVER dissaper or change itself.

All current cultures are built on the bones of previous ones, and are heavily differentiated from previous versions of itself.

The United  States alone is almost completely different compared to what it was two hundred years ago.


And?

Can't you read? He's sayin that races and their identities change or disappear all the time. America's identity is totally different then it was 150 years ago.

But who says it's always a good thing?

I don't want my race, heritage and culture to just disappear in a few decades.

If you are a Greek person and walk around at the Acropolis in Athens and watch the Parthenon, an amazing temple built almost 2,500 years ago, you are watching your own culture and heritage in absoute wonder.

The Indians of America can't do that and in the Middle East there's hardly any people left who can feel attached to the historical ruins there because all those peoples and cultures are mixed and the original civilizations extinct.



Slimebeast said:
sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:


And?

Can't you read? He's sayin that races and their identities change or disappear all the time. America's identity is totally different then it was 150 years ago.

But who says it's always a good thing?

I don't want my race, heritage and culture to just disappear in a few decades.

If you are a Greek person and walk around at the Acropolis in Athens and watch the Parthenon, an amazing temple built almost 2,500 years ago, you are watching your own culture and heritage in absoute wonder.

The Indians of America can't do that and in the Middle East there's hardly any people left who can feel attached to the historical ruins there because all those peoples and cultures are mixed and the original civilizations extinct.

Modern Greece and the Greece that birthed the Parthenon are not the same culture. The Ancient Greeks as we commonly think of them are effectively extinct.

You don't want your culture to disappear in a few decades?

Too bad. Welcome to the human condition. Everybody's on board, and there's no leaving this train.

Woo woo.



Slimebeast said:
sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:
Khuutra said:
pizzahut451 said:

DEATH TO GLOBALIZATION. Every race should have its own identity and should NEVER dissaper or change itself.

All current cultures are built on the bones of previous ones, and are heavily differentiated from previous versions of itself.

The United  States alone is almost completely different compared to what it was two hundred years ago.


And?

Can't you read? He's sayin that races and their identities change or disappear all the time. America's identity is totally different then it was 150 years ago.

But who says it's always a good thing?

I don't want my race, heritage and culture to just disappear in a few decades.

If you are a Greek person and walk around at the Acropolis in Athens and watch the Parthenon, an amazing temple built almost 2,500 years ago, you are watching your own culture and heritage in absoute wonder.

The Indians of America can't do that and in the Middle East there's hardly any people left who can feel attached to the historical ruins there because all those peoples and cultures are mixed and the original civilizations extinct.

Things have always been this way. You just have to understand this.

As for the Greek thing, the Greeks today are very different from the Greeks of the past. They don't even go greek as often as before (LOL).



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Khuutra said:
Slimebeast said:
sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:


And?

Can't you read? He's sayin that races and their identities change or disappear all the time. America's identity is totally different then it was 150 years ago.

But who says it's always a good thing?

I don't want my race, heritage and culture to just disappear in a few decades.

If you are a Greek person and walk around at the Acropolis in Athens and watch the Parthenon, an amazing temple built almost 2,500 years ago, you are watching your own culture and heritage in absoute wonder.

The Indians of America can't do that and in the Middle East there's hardly any people left who can feel attached to the historical ruins there because all those peoples and cultures are mixed and the original civilizations extinct.

Modern Greece and the Greece that birthed the Parthenon are not the same culture. The Ancient Greeks as we commonly think of them are effectively extinct.

You don't want your culture to disappear in a few decades?

Too bad. Welcome to the human condition. Everybody's on board, and there's no leaving this train.

Woo woo.


Which is why their constant arguements and complaining about Macedonia is funny.



Slimebeast said:
highwaystar101 said:

Forget it. This isn't worth the conflict!

Wait a minute. This was a reply to me originally, wasn't it?

(I got an indication someone had replied to one of my posts in this thread)


Yeah, I took offense that you singled me out on a subject I don't think I've ever really discussed with you.

I've just found that I cut my post instead it instead of deleting it, so here's the original post...

 

"Hey, thanks for singling me out here! Especially on a subject that I don't think I've even spoken to you about before (economic activity of migrant workers).

By the way, my opinion on migrant workers is yes when they are economically beneficial and no when they're not (those 74% of economically active foreign born workers on fig. 4.5.8. are welcome to come and work here in the UK). A few outstanding cases do exist obviously, but needless to say, there aren't many

Sorry."

 

But as my edit says, I'm really not in the mood for conflict today I'm afraid.



Khuutra said:
Slimebeast said:
sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:


And?

Can't you read? He's sayin that races and their identities change or disappear all the time. America's identity is totally different then it was 150 years ago.

But who says it's always a good thing?

I don't want my race, heritage and culture to just disappear in a few decades.

If you are a Greek person and walk around at the Acropolis in Athens and watch the Parthenon, an amazing temple built almost 2,500 years ago, you are watching your own culture and heritage in absoute wonder.

The Indians of America can't do that and in the Middle East there's hardly any people left who can feel attached to the historical ruins there because all those peoples and cultures are mixed and the original civilizations extinct.

Modern Greece and the Greece that birthed the Parthenon are not the same culture. The Ancient Greeks as we commonly think of them are effectively extinct.

You don't want your culture to disappear in a few decades?

Too bad. Welcome to the human condition. Everybody's on board, and there's no leaving this train.

Woo woo.

Of course they're not the same culture but modern Greeks are the direct descendants to ancient Greeks. They even have the same language.

Besides there are nations who actively protect their culture. France and Japan for example and I respect them for that. It's not a force of nature to be mixed in a melting pot á la America.



highwaystar101 said:
Slimebeast said:
highwaystar101 said:

Forget it. This isn't worth the conflict!

Wait a minute. This was a reply to me originally, wasn't it?

(I got an indication someone had replied to one of my posts in this thread)


Yeah, I took offense that you singled me out on a subject I don't think I've ever really discussed with you.

I've just found that I cut my post instead it instead of deleting it, so here's the original post...

 

"Hey, thanks for singling me out here! Especially on a subject that I don't think I've even spoken to you about before (economic activity of migrant workers).

Yes, we've debated it before and I remember your (positive) stance. No need to do it now though. I used your name just to make my objection towards SamuelRSmith to sound a lil milder. I didnt intend to drag you into this particular debate, sorry.



Slimebeast said:
Khuutra said:
Slimebeast said:

But who says it's always a good thing?

I don't want my race, heritage and culture to just disappear in a few decades.

If you are a Greek person and walk around at the Acropolis in Athens and watch the Parthenon, an amazing temple built almost 2,500 years ago, you are watching your own culture and heritage in absoute wonder.

The Indians of America can't do that and in the Middle East there's hardly any people left who can feel attached to the historical ruins there because all those peoples and cultures are mixed and the original civilizations extinct.

Modern Greece and the Greece that birthed the Parthenon are not the same culture. The Ancient Greeks as we commonly think of them are effectively extinct.

You don't want your culture to disappear in a few decades?

Too bad. Welcome to the human condition. Everybody's on board, and there's no leaving this train.

Woo woo.

Of course they're not the same culture but modern Greeks are the direct descendants to ancient Greeks. They even have the same language.

Besides there are nations who actively protect their culture. France and Japan for example and I respect them for that. It's not a force of nature to be mixed in a melting pot á la America.

Modern Greek is not the same language as ancient Greek. Being descended from a culture does not mean you have the same culture. That continuity is an illusion. All cultures change and go away, regardless of if you identify with them or not.

Actively protecting their culture, trying to freeze the march of progress on a cultural level, doesn't work and lliterally can't work over time. It's like trying to fix disembowelment with a band-aid. You make a lot of noise and show about this band-aid, but everyone remembers what you were like before your last culturla revolution or last brush with an imperial outside power, and everyone knows you aren't the same.

The position you are arguing is not defensible. No culture escapes change. Thhere is nothing to be done for it. Identifying with your past, with the line of that change, is great. Its wonderful. That's part of what celebrating yoru heritage is. But it also necessitates celebrating the outside cultural influences which have affected your current state (like the fact that Japan is an industrial nation at all).